Cornell-Yale postgame

Started by dbilmes, February 26, 2011, 09:53:29 PM

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Chris '03

Quote from: dbilmesyou got the feeling that once Yale broke though, they would get a flurry of goals, and that's exactly what happened in the second period.

My thoughts through the first half of the game as well.

It was the first time I'd seen the team in person all year and three things stood out:

1) Dumb penalties.  What really stood out to me was that the captain took 6 PIMs, including the first of the game, a completely obvious and unnecessary shove that never should have happened and a hook on the powerplay in the third. I expect more discipline from someone wearing a letter, particularly when a bye is on the line and you're playing a top 5 team knowing it will take a complete effort to win.

2) Physicality on defense. The first goal was a clinic in collapsing the defense on the powerplay. Watching the yale forward basically post up and push his man closer to the crease made it seem like contact was impermissible.

3) Presence in front of the net. Hardly ever saw a red sweater establish any sort of presence in front on either end of the ice, particularly offensively. This was most apparent on the PP in the third but Rondeau was getting clean looks all night.

Finally, the lack of effort on collecting the blue line pass gone bad that led to the ENG was unfortunate.

Looking forward to seeing how Yale stacks up in Bridgeport. They didn't look like a FF team Saturday but who knows how many more gears they have when the games count more.  Until then, they better stay away from the pool.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

ugarte

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Quote from: minThey say that a 4-seed is a 4-seed is a 4-seed. But why does this year's 4th place finish feel very different from that 4th place finish back in 1996, during Coach Schafer's first season? Why do I still feel depressed?
That is exactly what this chart tries to capture.

...I'd also like to see better normalization. You can't be 10 games above .500 when you've only played nine games. Perhaps some kind of p-value from a binomial distribution would be apropos.
You know what I like in my goofy, I-was-bored-once charts? Complex mathematical formulae.

Trotsky

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: minThey say that a 4-seed is a 4-seed is a 4-seed. But why does this year's 4th place finish feel very different from that 4th place finish back in 1996, during Coach Schafer's first season? Why do I still feel depressed?
That is exactly what this chart tries to capture.

...I'd also like to see better normalization. You can't be 10 games above .500 when you've only played nine games. Perhaps some kind of p-value from a binomial distribution would be apropos.
You know what I like in my goofy, I-was-bored-once charts? Complex mathematical formulae.
And chimps.

But actually this is an attempt to get at just what min means.  It compares the "warmth" results from game 10 on.  The "hotter" we run, the more satisfaction over the course of the season.

Note 1970.  Note also the 3 years immediately prior to Schafer.

jtwcornell91

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: minThey say that a 4-seed is a 4-seed is a 4-seed. But why does this year's 4th place finish feel very different from that 4th place finish back in 1996, during Coach Schafer's first season? Why do I still feel depressed?
That is exactly what this chart tries to capture.

...I'd also like to see better normalization. You can't be 10 games above .500 when you've only played nine games. Perhaps some kind of p-value from a binomial distribution would be apropos.
You know what I like in my goofy, I-was-bored-once charts? Complex mathematical formulae.
And chimps.

But actually this is an attempt to get at just what min means.  It compares the "warmth" results from game 10 on.  The "hotter" we run, the more satisfaction over the course of the season.

Note 1970.  Note also the 3 years immediately prior to Schafer.

I think this year is wrong there, BTW, since we're in the yellow, not orange for the entire stretch run on the other page.

Give My Regards

Quote from: TrotskyBut actually this is an attempt to get at just what min means.  It compares the "warmth" results from game 10 on.  The "hotter" we run, the more satisfaction over the course of the season.

Note 1970.  Note also the 3 years immediately prior to Schafer.

Something ain't quite right.  The 2011 team should be 13 games in yellow instead of orange, like they were in 2007.  (Uh-oh)  Cornell's best "temperature" (?) this season was +4 after the game at RPI.

Ah, never mind, JTW beat me to it.  Nothing to see here, just move along...
If you lead a good life, go to Sunday school and church, and say your prayers every night, when you die, you'll go to LYNAH!

Jacob '06

Quote from: Chris '03.

3) Presence in front of the net. Hardly ever saw a red sweater establish any sort of presence in front on either end of the ice, particularly offensively. This was most apparent on the PP in the third but Rondeau was getting clean looks all night.


I think they also were way too content to repeatedly take the outside on entry to the zone. Repeatedly they were just getting forced to the boards or to dump it towards the corner. There was one time a forward was coming up between the two Yale defenseman, and they let him have the middle for a second and he still decided to move to the outside. This led to them having a hard time generating good angle shots.

redice

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: dbilmesyou got the feeling that once Yale broke though, they would get a flurry of goals, and that's exactly what happened in the second period.

My thoughts through the first half of the game as well.

It was the first time I'd seen the team in person all year and three things stood out:

1) Dumb penalties.  What really stood out to me was that the captain took 6 PIMs, including the first of the game, a completely obvious and unnecessary shove that never should have happened and a hook on the powerplay in the third. I expect more discipline from someone wearing a letter, particularly when a bye is on the line and you're playing a top 5 team knowing it will take a complete effort to win.

2) Physicality on defense. The first goal was a clinic in collapsing the defense on the powerplay. Watching the yale forward basically post up and push his man closer to the crease made it seem like contact was impermissible.

3) Presence in front of the net. Hardly ever saw a red sweater establish any sort of presence in front on either end of the ice, particularly offensively. This was most apparent on the PP in the third but Rondeau was getting clean looks all night.

Finally, the lack of effort on collecting the blue line pass gone bad that led to the ENG was unfortunate.

Looking forward to seeing how Yale stacks up in Bridgeport. They didn't look like a FF team Saturday but who knows how many more gears they have when the games count more.  Until then, they better stay away from the pool.

Good observations about the team's play this year....Notice that word "discipline" again...The lack thereof is one of the big story lines for this team..
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Trotsky

Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: TrotskyBut actually this is an attempt to get at just what min means.  It compares the "warmth" results from game 10 on.  The "hotter" we run, the more satisfaction over the course of the season.

Note 1970.  Note also the 3 years immediately prior to Schafer.

Something ain't quite right.  The 2011 team should be 13 games in yellow instead of orange, like they were in 2007.  (Uh-oh)  Cornell's best "temperature" (?) this season was +4 after the game at RPI.

Ah, never mind, JTW beat me to it.  Nothing to see here, just move along...
Fixed, thanks.  God bless peer review.  :)