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Quote from: CU77 on May 25, 2026, 12:30:52 PMAt least 90% of recruiting has to do with factors that the coach has no direct control over: academics, campus culture, weather, facilities, likelihood of a championship,  etc. There's not some magic knob that a coach can turn to improve recruiting.

Perhaps. But while Princeton and ND may have some advantages, I don't see enough difference in the five things you explicitly mention (academics, campus culture, weather, facilities, likelihood of a championship) to account for Princeton repeatedly recruiting the #1 class (several years in a row with 5x5*) while we recruit #20.

This is particularly vexing because until recently we have regularly recruited generational players like Kurst, Teat, Adler, etc.

We are still recruiting potentially generational players.

The fact we still get the occasional 5-star doesn't disprove the broader point. BTW, Adler was not a big-time recruit. Nor was Pannell.

The problem is not recruiting. The problem is how well we play. We're absolutely able to beat the national champions Princeton Tigers. Do you know how I know?

Sorry, but this is cope. Can we beat Princeton? Yes. Were we as good as Princeton this season? No. We fortunately recruit well enough that we aren't completely overmatched against the top teams, and often we do beat them, but we'd beat them more often if we recruited better. Developing players is important, but the ceiling is higher on a 5-star recruit than a 3-star recruit. You'll win more by developing a 5-star. What I'm saying is so simple that it's practically tautological: bringing in better players means you win more. Yes, we can beat the teams that out-recruit us, but this is in spite of the recruiting disparity, and we'd beat those teams more often if we recruited better.

Overall our recruiting has been fine. Clearly not as good as Princeton's or Notre Dame's or UVA's or Duke's or UNC's, but it's been good enough to compete nationally. This will no longer be the case if we bring in the 20th best recruiting class every season (as we will next year). Even our 2027 ranking (11th) isn't very good, considering the class was recruited in the wake of our national title. So, we need to step it up.

I could be wrong, I suppose, but didn't Cornell just win a national championship twelve months ago? 

What will it take to quiesce the insistent, persistent whining we are depressingly subjected to?  I'd rather read the Cyrillic garbage we get than this tiresome Chicken Little act.

Only two assisted goals

Out of control.  No cutters. Can't get an open shot.

USA Lacrosse article on Goldstein: https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/college/men/fulfilling-legacy-goldstein-brought-title-cornell-eluded-his-parents

Firth is one of five Tewaaraton finalists.

Quote from: rss77 on May 04, 2026, 04:01:01 PMAlso was at game back 1987 and will never forget Tim Goldstein's shot bouncing off the post in OT.  Game of inches indeed!

There was no OT.  Bubier scored with 1:51 left to win it 11-10.

Quote from: CU77 on May 01, 2026, 07:20:25 PMAJ got 2 goals 

Yale leading Princeton 6-3 midway through Q2

6-5 at half

Princeton once took a QB from, I think, Purdue, after his freshman year.  They say they don't take transfers, so, to satisfy that, they made him enter as a freshman, not a sophomore.  When you need a QB, you do what you have to do.

Way back, when the NHL had six teams, the playoffs opened with two series:  #1 vs. #3 and #2 vs. #4.  As the season drew to a close, the #3 and #4 teams could jockey for fourth place and the more desirable first-round opponent, while making sure they didn't slip down to 5th place and miss the playoffs.  Very strange way of doing things.

Not sure what's more of an embarrassment:  Having no west stands, or having those.

Quote from: stereax on April 24, 2026, 02:29:42 PMWhat's the difference between the usual Crescent seating and "field level" seating? Assuming those are the bottom few rows?

Anyways, ticket bought, thanks Cornell for making most sporting tickets free, see y'all tomorrow 💜

I think you're on the sidelines with field level.  Noticed yesterday there are now very small metal stands where the west stands once were.  Might that be field level?

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Quote from: Trotsky on April 24, 2026, 11:37:18 AMI have barely followed lax this year.  Cornell is 8th and Harvard is 7th so... Saturday is a big deal, right?

i find the ncaa selection process inscrutable so i have no idea about that. Saturday's game is for ILT seeding (both teams are in). If we win, we host.

Good game to haul myself to while avoiding final essays? Thinking so...

Take rain slicker and umbrella.  Taking mine.

Quote from: TimV on April 23, 2026, 08:12:11 PM@ Al D. and Marty:
There were quite a few football guys on those Harkness teams. I mostly remember Ned's first team in 1966. There was Reeve (Ting) Vanneman now a professor at the University of Maryland.  He was a tackle in football, also famous for being one of the guys who attempted to block Princeton's Charlie Gogolak field goals by standing alongside another tackle,  both with defensive backs (Dale Witwer and Jim Dockerty) standing on their shoulders.  Doug Zirkle was a bear of a midfielder (think Hugh Kelleher only bigger) who was a tight end in football and the cocaptain on the 1966 lacrosse team.  Both, I think were All- Ivy in both sports.  Midfielder Bob Smith was a wide receiver in football.  Bill Finan, Jerry Dolan and I were just trying to avoid football's spring V-Program. V stood for voluntary, but it wasn't voluntary.  No real football then, just running and conditioning.  The only way out was to be in a spring sport, so...

Also, Harry Orr (Fan Favorite Harry Orr) was a great defenseman and key guy on Ned's hockey teams, so I don't buy the story that Ned threatened him if he didn't play lacrosse.

Orr was named ECAC's best defensive defenseman for the 1966-1967 season.  Roster listed him as 5'9" and 150 pounds.  Other listings said 170.  IIRC, he came to Cornell as a forward, and Ned moved him to defense, as he did with Steve Giuliani, Bruce Pattison and Dan Lodboa.

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Quote from: TimV on April 23, 2026, 08:09:33 AMVoted.  No NCAA championship determined by tournament.

Also,  Harry Orr broke a goalie's ankle with that shot.  Dartmouth I think, on what was then lower alumni field.

Any comment on those playing two sports, Tim?

TimV, IIRC.  A few football guys played lacrosse rather than just training to stay in football shape.

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Quote from: billhoward on April 19, 2026, 08:09:31 PMMay 19, 1976, NCAA Quarterfinals
Cornell 14, Washington & Lee 0
Goaltender, Dan Mackesey '76

This was the first of Cornell's back to back championships. The title game is notable because the match versus Maryland ended a 12-12 tie, Cornell won 16-13 in overtime, and Maryland scored the first goal. At the time, the NCAA realized any one lacrosse goal can be fluky, so play 5 minutes.

Dan Mackesey Ithaca High '72

Mackesey was also the starting goalie for the men's soccer team. Those were the days when it was more common for star athletes to play two sports. Brock Tredway, for example, was a star hockey player for Cornell in the late '70s who also was on the soccer team.

Bruce Cohen, lacrosse hall of famer, led the Ivy League in goals one year playing soccer.  Also, a starting guard on freshman basketball team.  Busy guy.  No NIL, either.