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Still possible to make it... though I think Cornell needs these exact results.

http://goo.gl/o5dWI9

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk   W-L-T Win %  
1 Minnesota 58 .5930 1   25-6-6 .7568  
2 Boston College 57 .5881* 2   26-7-4 .7568  
3 Union 55 .5877* 3   28-6-4 .7895  
4 Wisconsin 55 .5661* 4   24-10-2 .6944  
5 Mass.-Lowell 53 .5617* 5   25-10-4 .6923  
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5581 7   25-9-6 .7000  
7 Ferris State 52 .5610* 6   28-10-3 .7195  
8 Notre Dame 51 .5518* 8   23-14-2 .6154  
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5495* 9   21-10-5 .6528  
10 Minnesota State 49 .5476* 10   26-13-1 .6625  
11 Providence 47 .5472* 11   21-10-6 .6486  
12 North Dakota 47 .5449 12   24-12-3 .6538  
13 Vermont 46 .5398 13   20-14-3 .5811  
14 Michigan 44 .5367 14   18-13-4 .5714  
15 Cornell 44 .5351 15   17-10-5 .6094  
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16 Northeastern 42 .5351 16   19-14-4 .5676  
17 Colgate 42 .5348 17   19-13-5 .5811  
18 New Hampshire 42 .5282 18   22-18-1 .5488  
19 Yale 40 .5266 19   17-11-5 .5909  
20 Ohio State 39 .5265 20   18-14-5 .5541  


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Niagara def. Robert Morris
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Niagara def. Canisius
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Ohio State def. Minnesota
•Big Ten Championship: Wisconsin def. Ohio State
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Denver
•NCHC Consolation: Miami def. Western Michigan
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Championship: Minnesota State def. Ferris State

Quote from: Jim Hyla

Quote from: mikekCornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

I just ran this again and we're 17. Did I do something wrong, or has it changed?

Looks like it changed...  I can't duplicate the result, nor can I find one where Cornell gets in with a loss.

Cornell can make it with a loss to Union. Need NoDak and Ferris to win their tournaments. Colgate needs to lose. New Hampshire can't win hockey east. Need Minnesota St to lose. Bit of a long shot... Even a win against Union doesn't guarantee a bid if there upsets in other leagues.

Rk Team PCWs RPI Rk   W-L-T Win %  
1 Minnesota 58 .6021 1   27-5-6 .7895  
2 Boston College 57 .5892* 2   26-7-4 .7568  
3 Union 55 .5863* 3   28-6-4 .7895  
4 Ferris State 55 .5680* 4   29-9-3 .7439  
5 Wisconsin 54 .5608* 5   23-11-2 .6667  
6 Quinnipiac 53 .5593 7   25-9-6 .7000  
7 Mass.-Lowell 52 .5608* 6   25-10-4 .6923  
8 Notre Dame 51 .5542* 8   23-14-2 .6154  
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5485* 9   21-10-5 .6528  
10 Providence 48 .5451* 10   21-10-6 .6486  
11 North Dakota 48 .5445 11   24-12-3 .6538  
12 Michigan 46 .5406 12   19-13-4 .5833  
13 Vermont 46 .5400 13   20-14-3 .5811  
14 Northeastern 44 .5359 14   19-14-4 .5676  
15 Cornell 44 .5356 15   17-10-5 .6094  
16 Colgate 43 .5352 16   19-13-5 .5811  
17 New Hampshire 42 .5303 18   22-18-1 .5488  
18 Minnesota State 41 .5347 17   24-14-1 .6282  
19 Yale 40 .5268 19   17-11-5 .5909  
20 Western Michigan 40 .5257 20   20-15-5 .5625  
21 Ohio State 38 .5218 21   17-14-5 .5417  
22 Minnesota-Duluth 38 .5197 22   16-16-4 .5000  
23 Maine 35 .5185 23   16-15-4 .5143  
24 Bowling Green 35 .5172 24   19-15-6 .5500  
25 Clarkson 33 .5141 26   21-17-4 .5476  
26 Alaska-Anchorage 33 .5122 27   18-16-4 .5263  
27 Alaska-Fairbanks 32 .5068 29   18-15-4 .5405  
28 Denver 31 .5161 25   19-16-6 .5366  
29 Mercyhurst 30 .5079 28   23-12-7 .6310  
30 Rensselaer 29 .5048 30   15-16-6 .4865  
31 Nebraska-Omaha 29 .5045 31   17-18-2 .4865  
32 St. Lawrence 28 .5003 32   15-19-4 .4474  
33 Lake Superior 27 .4994 33   16-19-1 .4583  
34 Michigan Tech 25 .4935 34   14-19-7 .4375  
35 Miami 24 .4934 35   14-21-3 .4079  
36 Air Force 24 .4922 36   21-14-4 .5897  
37 Michigan State 22 .4878 37   11-18-7 .4028  
38 Brown 21 .4872 38   11-17-3 .4032  
39 Northern Michigan 19 .4832 40   15-21-2 .4211  
40 Harvard 19 .4810 41   10-17-4 .3871  
41 Bentley 17 .4858 39   19-14-4 .5676  
42 Dartmouth 17 .4784 42   10-20-4 .3529  
43 Connecticut 16 .4776 43   18-14-4 .5556  
44 Boston University 15 .4728 44   10-21-4 .3429  
45 Bemidji State 14 .4704 45   10-21-7 .3553  
46 Massachusetts 13 .4696 46   8-22-4 .2941  
47 Robert Morris 12 .4664 47   18-18-5 .5000  
48 Merrimack 12 .4601 48   8-22-3 .2879  
49 Canisius 10 .4601 49   16-21-3 .4375  
50 Niagara 9 .4588 50   15-20-5 .4375  
51 Colorado College 8 .4537 51   7-24-6 .2703  
52 Penn State 7 .4484 52   7-26-2 .2286  
53 Holy Cross 6 .4465 53   14-22-3 .3974  
54 RIT 5 .4449 54   12-20-5 .3919  
55 Princeton 4 .4320 55   6-26-0 .1875  
56 Sacred Heart 4 .4282 56   12-24-0 .3333  
57 American Int'l 2 .4176 57   10-25-1 .2917  
58 Alabama-Huntsville 1 .3955 58   2-35-1 .0658  
59 Army 0 .3887 59   6-28-0 .1765  


User-Specified Results
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: Mercyhurst def. Canisius
•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Robert Morris def. Niagara
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Mercyhurst def. Robert Morris
•Big Ten Semifinal #1: Minnesota def. Ohio State
•Big Ten Semifinal #2: Wisconsin def. Michigan
•Big Ten Championship: Minnesota def. Wisconsin
•Big Ten Play-in #1: Michigan def. Penn State
•Big Ten Play-in #2: Ohio State def. Michigan State
•ECAC Semifinal #1: Union def. Cornell
•ECAC Semifinal #2: Quinnipiac def. Colgate
•ECAC Championship: Union def. Quinnipiac
•Hockey East Semifinal #1: Mass.-Lowell def. Notre Dame
•Hockey East Semifinal #2: New Hampshire def. Providence
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Semifinal #1: North Dakota def. Miami
•NCHC Semifinal #2: Western Michigan def. Denver
•NCHC Championship: North Dakota def. Western Michigan
•NCHC Consolation: Denver def. Miami
•WCHA Semifinal #1: Ferris State def. Alaska-Anchorage
•WCHA Semifinal #2: Bowling Green def. Minnesota State
•WCHA Championship: Ferris State def. Bowling Green

Also interesting that Craig was out there with Miller and Mowrey.  Definitely not a standard line for us and we weren't mid change because we just did a full change on the face-off before the goal... I guess someone knew what they were doing.

Quote from: css228I didn't know the ILR building was now playing goalie...

It is a brick wall...

Quote from: BeowulfAbsolutely glorious.  More analysis, please, especially from folks who were there. I was on an airplane home to Ithaca and so missed it entirely.  Got home right before the winner.

Wasn't there but heres a summary.  Michigan came out strong and nearly had a 2-0 lead 90 seconds in.  The second goal was disallowed after a timeout by Cornell.  Ruled there was interference on Iles... there was clearly contact, but probably 50-50 that goal gets overturned.  Prior to that Cornell looked asleep.  After the TO and disallowed goal play was pretty even.  Cornell got a great goal on the PP from McCarron.  A laser beam from the top of the circle that beat Hundwick clean and pinged in off the post.  After that there was a penalty marred 2nd period.  Cornell got a shorted handed goal from Ryan on a beautiful backhand saucer pass from Collins on a 2 on 1 to open the second.  We were on the kill for 9+ minutes in the second period including 2+ minutes of 5v3 but managed to survive.  Michigan dominated much of the 3rd as Cornell played prevent defense.  Michigan scored with about 3 minutes left after a failed clear attempt and a rebound to tie it at 2.  Cornell came out strong in OT and after a Michigan chance got a nice rush going the other way.  Mowrey fed a nice backhand pass to Miller who one timed it.  Hundwick made a ridiculous save on the Miller chance, but Craig was there to put home the rebound for the win!  Overall the Red played well except for the first 90 seconds... the disallowed goal was a huge momentum swing and without it I don't think we could have come back (was headed for Harvard v.2).

Link to replay on ESPN3: ESPN3 Replay

Craig: 2 goals, 2 game winning goals, 2 goals against NCAA #1 seeds

Looks like the ECAC has just given up promoting the games altogether.  Went to the site to confirm the game times and this is what I got:

Quote from: RichH

Quote from: RitaDon't get too many crazy ideas about having a Conference Tourney with a ticket to the NC$$ tournament at stake at a venue that doesn't normally have ice for hockey games. You do not want to be playing important games on sh*tty ice.

Ford Field.

Ohhh, if you're going to go to Philadelphia, let's keep going to Baltimore. Or Washington DCAC!!!

Let's just go way outside the box and keeping going all the way to Vegas, that's what AC wants to be anyway.  It works for lower tier college bball tourneys why not college hockey.  The Orleans Arena seats 9500 and hosts an ECHL team.  Go to a WCHA style tourney so you get fans from 6 teams instead of 4.  If you can't get 10000 people to go to Vegas you aren't going to get them to go to city not named Boston or NY in the northeast...

In all seriousness if you can't have it at a destination people want to go to you might as well have the highest seed host it.  Put a minimum on the number of seats your arena has to have, if the highest seeds arena doesn't have enough seats then it goes to the next highest seed. If all the arenas are too small you aren't going to get enough fans anyway so just have it at the highest seed. Maybe it will motivate some schools to build bigger areans (...doubtful).

Cornell loses to Harvard and Union and still gets in.  (Unfortunately it requires Harvard to win the ECAC... couldn't make it work with Colgate winning)  Hockey East doesn't really matter as long as Maine loses to BU. Pretty much everything else has to occur exactly like this except for Air Force/Mercyhurst can go either way.  Basically everything has to go right to lower N. Michigan's RPI and raise Cornell's.  Its easier for us to get in with 2 losses if Union wins the ECAC because we only have to get to 15th (assuming no other upset winners)

Atlantic Hockey
Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
Semifinal #1: Mercyhurst defeats Air Force
Championship game: Niagara defeats Mercyhurst
CCHA
Semifinal #2: Miami defeats Western Michigan
Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
Championship game: Miami defeats Bowling Green
Consolation game: Michigan defeats Western Michigan
ECAC
Semifinal #2: Harvard defeats Cornell
Semifinal #1: Colgate defeats Union
Championship game: Harvard defeats Colgate
Consolation game: Union defeats Cornell
Hockey East
Semifinal #2: Boston University defeats Maine
Semifinal #1: Boston College defeats Providence
Championship game: Boston University defeats Boston College
WCHA
Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
Semifinal #1: North Dakota defeats Minnesota
Championship game: North Dakota defeats Minnesota-Duluth

With Yale dropping out as a TUC we drop to 12th

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinSomeone correct me if I am wrong (as if I have to ask for correction if I am in fact wrong), but is it not standard for the teams to shake hands after each playoff game? I found Dartmouth's sulking off the ice tonight both humorous and perhaps unsportsmanlike. I cannot remember if Harvard and Cornell shook hands after each game in 2010 (the last ECAC QF before Game 1 of this series that I attended in person). Perhaps a minor detail, but I found it classless, especially if it violates typical protocol.

If I remember correctly, in the 3 game playoff series the teams never shake hands until the series is decided.

On the bright side...if they ever get the 3rd period figured out they could be scary good.  They've had a great chance to win in the third period of every game this year.  The 2-1 loss to Colgate loss was probably the worst chance of them all and that was only a 1 goal 3rd period deficit. Probably won't happen but part of me hopes they''ll get it straightened just as the playoffs get here.

Quote from: Jim HylaThe more difficult task for PSU is to decide what to do when Paterno dies.

Unfortunately they are going to have to do that sooner rather than later. Paterno passed away this morning. ESPN story

Shame he had to go out this way.  Hopefully people will remember the good as well as the bad. RIP Joe.

Heart breaking loss.  I thought Cornell outplayed BU for much of the game, especially the 2nd and 3rd periods, but we just didn't have the shooting touch we've had so far this season.  Lots of shots into blocks and wide of the net.  

I don't think the officiating was quite as bad as some do.  The 5x3 call was a bit harsh considering the situation and the way they let a lot of things go the rest of the game.  There was also a clear trip of Jillson as he came into the BU zone in the third period that wasn't called.  I think both reviews were handled correctly, but I'm not sure the play on the second one was... I was at a BWW and had no sound so I can't comment on when the whistle blew, but the ref put it to his mouth well before the puck went in and he immediately waved it off when it did. Impossible to tell if it hit the netting to justify the whistle.  As much as I want to complain about it, the players had all stopped playing by the point it went it so I think its hard to argue for it to count.

I thought Iles played extremely well again and could have easily had a shutout again.  Both goals were just unstoppable, especially the OT goal.  It was a nasty deflection of a low one timer that was heading for the corner boards.  Deflected high into the far corner of the net and Iles never had a chance to see it.  The whole BU sequence that led to the winning goal was setup by a terrible neutral zone turnover, which Cornell had done a good job of avoiding for most of the game.

Overall we showed we can play with a top team and hopefully the team will be able to build off this for the future and we'll get to see a rematch this spring.