Screw BU

[Dafatone]

The worst call of the day was the 2 minutes for Embellishment. I can see calling a dive if you AREN'T going to whistle the other guy for a ticky-tack foul... but if you agree that there is a penalty, an offsetting embellishment minor is bullshit.

For better or worse, I have never seen an embellishment/diving minor in a Cornell game that didn't also have an accompanying actual minor.  I agree with you.  Just, I've seen this before.

Worst call of the day was the penalty that put us down 5x3.  Apparently if a guy is holding your stick and you push him and he goes down, that's interference on you.  Huh.

These were HEA refs?  Jaysus.  How do we go about fixing that?

[ajh258]

The worst call of the day was the 2 minutes for Embellishment. I can see calling a dive if you AREN'T going to whistle the other guy for a ticky-tack foul... but if you agree that there is a penalty, an offsetting embellishment minor is bullshit.

For better or worse, I have never seen an embellishment/diving minor in a Cornell game that didn't also have an accompanying actual minor.  I agree with you.  Just, I've seen this before.

Worst call of the day was the penalty that put us down 5x3.  Apparently if a guy is holding your stick and you push him and he goes down, that's interference on you.  Huh.

These were HEA refs?  Jaysus.  How do we go about fixing that?

Host Red Hot Hockey at Lynah. Every time.

[css228]

The worst call of the day was the 2 minutes for Embellishment. I can see calling a dive if you AREN'T going to whistle the other guy for a ticky-tack foul... but if you agree that there is a penalty, an offsetting embellishment minor is bullshit.

For better or worse, I have never seen an embellishment/diving minor in a Cornell game that didn't also have an accompanying actual minor.  I agree with you.  Just, I've seen this before.

Worst call of the day was the penalty that put us down 5x3.  Apparently if a guy is holding your stick and you push him and he goes down, that's interference on you.  Huh.

These were HEA refs?  Jaysus.  How do we go about fixing that?

Host Red Hot Hockey at Lynah. Every time.

BU would never agree to it, but even if they did I'm not sure it'd help. The ECAC refs would probably forget to set up the video review equipment.

[ajh258]

The worst call of the day was the 2 minutes for Embellishment. I can see calling a dive if you AREN'T going to whistle the other guy for a ticky-tack foul... but if you agree that there is a penalty, an offsetting embellishment minor is bullshit.

For better or worse, I have never seen an embellishment/diving minor in a Cornell game that didn't also have an accompanying actual minor.  I agree with you.  Just, I've seen this before.

Worst call of the day was the penalty that put us down 5x3.  Apparently if a guy is holding your stick and you push him and he goes down, that's interference on you.  Huh.

These were HEA refs?  Jaysus.  How do we go about fixing that?

Host Red Hot Hockey at Lynah. Every time.

BU would never agree to it, but even if they did I'm not sure it'd help. The ECAC refs would probably forget to set up the video review equipment.

If I recall correctly, the incident of not setting the review camera was our staff's fault. In any case, I think they should use neutral refs from
CCHA or AIC.

[Dafatone]

Neutral refs, or is there a possibility of one ECAC and one HEA ref?  Maybe they prefer working with people they know.

That being said, ECAC refs are also often terrible.

[ScrewBU]

Horrible officiating... BU didn't deserve it, just like last time.

Hahahaha.  Cornell could play BU 100 times, and BU wins 99 of those games but never once "deserves it."  I guess when Cornell's players have no shot but tee it up right at a defender and he blocks it, that's a bad bounce.  Or when they blindly drop the puck behind them but no one's there, that's bad luck.  Or they forget the puck when they skate up the ice, that's just unlucky.  

They can't stand up to the big boys. Can't win a big game, against a big team, or in a big building. Never could and never will.  But blame the refs, seems like they cost us the game every year ::rolleyes::

[Johnny 5]

Horrible officiating... BU didn't deserve it, just like last time.

Hahahaha.  Cornell could play BU 100 times, and BU wins 99 of those games but never once "deserves it."  I guess when Cornell's players have no shot but tee it up right at a defender and he blocks it, that's a bad bounce.  Or when they blindly drop the puck behind them but no one's there, that's bad luck.  Or they forget the puck when they skate up the ice, that's just unlucky.  

They can't stand up to the big boys. Can't win a big game, against a big team, or in a big building. Never could and never will.  But blame the refs, seems like they cost us the game every year ::rolleyes::

Hmmm,...we'll see. 4 seniors & 10 freshmen?
No, it didn't help for the D to be standing around flat-footed watching BU cycle the puck during OT.
I screamed at the TV, "Jesus Christ, hit somebody will you!!" (that usually works) just as BU scored the winner.
But, we had 'em in periods 2 & 3. And, those 10 freshmen are only going to get better for us, unless they jump to the NHL.
So, be cocky while you still can all you CU naysayers. The commentator was right. Ferlin may be the best frosh in the country and the rest aren't far behind.
So, screw BU & Hahvahd, too. Cornell is going to be a team to be reckoned with. And, the refs be damned.

::flipd::

[Redscore]

Horrible officiating... BU didn't deserve it, just like last time.

Hahahaha.  Cornell could play BU 100 times, and BU wins 99 of those games but never once "deserves it."  I guess when Cornell's players have no shot but tee it up right at a defender and he blocks it, that's a bad bounce.  Or when they blindly drop the puck behind them but no one's there, that's bad luck.  Or they forget the puck when they skate up the ice, that's just unlucky.  

They can't stand up to the big boys. Can't win a big game, against a big team, or in a big building. Never could and never will.  But blame the refs, seems like they cost us the game every year ::rolleyes::

I understand you are trying to balance things out a bit but you don't have to do it in such a jerky way.  First off, I hardly think BU wins 99 of 100 games against this Cornell team. I thought we had the better of the play last night and gave BU all that they could handle. It was really something to be able to do that, as was said many times during the broadcast, with 10 freshmen.

The ref's were not great.  I generally am not one that believes referees are out and out biased but the 5 on 3 interferance and the embellishment call were on the edge, judgment calls that showed that the ref's at the very least, had no concern about coming across as favoring their home league.  They deserve this morning to be called homers for having made unnecessary calls that went way above and beyond and ultimately benefitted their home league team.  Maybe those calls are okay if they are made both ways but they were not last night.

The non-goal was the right call. It was clear that the ref lost sight of the puck and one can clearly hear the whistle before the puck falls into the goal.  On an emotional level it certainly makes me hate the zebras more, but it was really just an unfortunate event that contributed towards a frustrating result.

It really appeared that the color guy, Jaffe was almost too excited that it was not a goal.  He really pissed me off all night and seemed to go out of his way to understate the Cornell fan support and overstate the BU fan base.  A lot of irritating little things but maybe its just me....

I'm obviously unhappy with the result this morning but I'm really excited about the team and the future. It seems that recruiting has taken a real step up and I agree that this team, and hopefully the program longer term, is showing signs that it can attract talent like the big teams.

We should have won this game and deserved it a bit more, just a bit more but not a lot more, than BU.

In my opinion, Brian Ferlin, a freshman, was the best player on the ice last night.

We have our goalie.  The kid is damn, damn good and without the 5 on 3 bs call and goal, maybe posts another shut-out.

Love Joakim Ryan.

Dagostino is back next year as well

This is a good team that is going to be really, really good by the end of the year and there is no need to bring out that "Can't win a big game, against a big team, or in a big building. Never could and never will" crap.  I can understand saying crap like that if it was a choke, but this was not a choke.  This was a really good performance where some bounces went against us.  We just have to live with that.  Maybe this result hurts us somewhere down the line this year, but I'm going to say that the positives from the performance by this young team far outweighs the negatives from the loss.  

This is going to be a fun run.

[css228]

The worst call of the day was the 2 minutes for Embellishment. I can see calling a dive if you AREN'T going to whistle the other guy for a ticky-tack foul... but if you agree that there is a penalty, an offsetting embellishment minor is bullshit.

For better or worse, I have never seen an embellishment/diving minor in a Cornell game that didn't also have an accompanying actual minor.  I agree with you.  Just, I've seen this before.

Worst call of the day was the penalty that put us down 5x3.  Apparently if a guy is holding your stick and you push him and he goes down, that's interference on you.  Huh.

These were HEA refs?  Jaysus.  How do we go about fixing that?

Host Red Hot Hockey at Lynah. Every time.

BU would never agree to it, but even if they did I'm not sure it'd help. The ECAC refs would probably forget to set up the video review equipment.

If I recall correctly, the incident of not setting the review camera was our staff's fault. In any case, I think they should use neutral refs from
CCHA or AIC.

As I remember, the rule is that the equipment has to be set up by the referees, and I'd be surprised if it was our staff because it happened TWICE last year (vs. Yale, and vs. QPac in the ECAC playoffs). I seriously doubt our rink staff would have made that mistake twice in one season. Either way, I totally agree that there should have been CCHA or AHA refs for neutral ice.

[ajh258]

Horrible officiating... BU didn't deserve it, just like last time.

Hahahaha.  Cornell could play BU 100 times, and BU wins 99 of those games but never once "deserves it."  I guess when Cornell's players have no shot but tee it up right at a defender and he blocks it, that's a bad bounce.  Or when they blindly drop the puck behind them but no one's there, that's bad luck.  Or they forget the puck when they skate up the ice, that's just unlucky.  

They can't stand up to the big boys. Can't win a big game, against a big team, or in a big building. Never could and never will.  But blame the refs, seems like they cost us the game every year ::rolleyes::

I understand you are trying to balance things out a bit but you don't have to do it in such a jerky way.  

Good post, but don't worry about this guy. He's just a troll.

[scoop85]

Observations from my perch way up in Section 411:

1. I was struck how differently this game played out from the first two editions of RHH.  In 2007  BU was simply far faster and more skilled.  In 2009 there was still a contrast in styles, but we were a better, more experienced team than in 2007 and were able to play with them.  Last night I thought BU had morphed into Cornell -- a lot of size, blocking a lot of shots, outstanding goaltending, playing it close to the vest.  They still have some very talented guys, but no one who made your eyes pop out.  Cornell, while still playing classic Schafer hockey, has more skilled players throughout the lineup than since the FF team. Iles certainly  found his groove and looks to be developing into the big-time goalie that we've been expecting.  

2. As others have commented, Ferlin's potential seems unlimited -- a big strong kid who skates well and has quick hands and great hockey awareness.  I don't know if he's the best Freshman in the country (I know the  kid from Minnesota is scoring in droves), but there can't be many better.  None of the other Frosh seemed to have any stage fright and all looked like they belonged.

3. Agreed with another comment that there were a number of occasions where we tended to make one pass too many and lose a good scoring opportunity.  But that often happens when a team is having a lot of shots blocked and is up against a hot goalie.

4. The biggest disappointment was our power play.   We had some good movement, but BU did a great job clogging the passing lanes down low and blocking shots from the point.  I think we have the right ingredients, so I'm not too concerned about it.  

5. The officiating was bad, but I did think the whistle had blown before the puck went into the net on the no-goal call.  My bigger gripe was with the call to Birch leading to the 5 x 3, and a number of non-calls on obvious infractions.

6. While the loss was disappointing, I'm left with feeling of great optimism for the remainder of this season, not to mention the future of the program.  We should be at or near the top  of the ECAC, and an NCAA birth is a legitimate goal.

[Ben]

Iles certainly  found his groove and looks to be developing into the big-time goalie that we've been expecting.  

What you're trying to say is that he is The Answer.

[andyw2100]

Watching the broadcast on TV I've got to say that it sounded like a home game. The announcers were saying things like they thought the split was 60-40 Cornell, but it definitely didn't sound like that at all. Great job to those of you that were in attendance!

[scoop85]

Watching the broadcast on TV I've got to say that it sounded like a home game. The announcers were saying things like they thought the split was 60-40 Cornell, but it definitely didn't sound like that at all. Great job to those of you that were in attendance!

No question, of the three RHH games, this was the most pro-Cornell crowd.

[mikek]

Heart breaking loss.  I thought Cornell outplayed BU for much of the game, especially the 2nd and 3rd periods, but we just didn't have the shooting touch we've had so far this season.  Lots of shots into blocks and wide of the net.  

I don't think the officiating was quite as bad as some do.  The 5x3 call was a bit harsh considering the situation and the way they let a lot of things go the rest of the game.  There was also a clear trip of Jillson as he came into the BU zone in the third period that wasn't called.  I think both reviews were handled correctly, but I'm not sure the play on the second one was... I was at a BWW and had no sound so I can't comment on when the whistle blew, but the ref put it to his mouth well before the puck went in and he immediately waved it off when it did. Impossible to tell if it hit the netting to justify the whistle.  As much as I want to complain about it, the players had all stopped playing by the point it went it so I think its hard to argue for it to count.

I thought Iles played extremely well again and could have easily had a shutout again.  Both goals were just unstoppable, especially the OT goal.  It was a nasty deflection of a low one timer that was heading for the corner boards.  Deflected high into the far corner of the net and Iles never had a chance to see it.  The whole BU sequence that led to the winning goal was setup by a terrible neutral zone turnover, which Cornell had done a good job of avoiding for most of the game.

Overall we showed we can play with a top team and hopefully the team will be able to build off this for the future and we'll get to see a rematch this spring.