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Statement from Temple Athletics, where he joined the staff this past June. Courtney was head coach of the Big Red from 2010 to 2016.

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Quote from: billhowardSchafer's record:

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3 ECAC championships


Ummmmm, 6 ECAC Championships.

The database isn't working, so I can't check which one of you is right. But I suspect Scersk is.

1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010, 2024.

CHN, via John Buccigross: Casey Jones coming on board as associate HC, to succeed Mike Schafer following the 2024-25 season.

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From adamw's update this morning:

Quote from: adamw (at CHN)Because five NCHC teams will make the NCAA Tournament, the Committee can, according its manual, allow those two teams to meet. But it has never done so before when five teams from the same conference made it. It has only done so once, when six WCHA teams made the field in 2008.

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Quote from: Chris '03Nothing did more to make Moore look good than two decades of Andy Noel.

Unfounded and uncalled for. Presumes that Cornell sports suffered more under the previous AD than in years previous. Basketball got to the Sweet Sixteen under Noel, lacrosse has been to multiple final fours, women's ane men's hockey are thriving, wrestling is perennial top ten, soccer is doing well. This year's successes came from Noel's years at the helm.

Fairer comments would be:
* The greatest disparity of men's versus women's titles in the Ivy League belonged to Cornell. This is Daily Princetonian data and goes back to the Ivy League founding in 1956, so responsibility for that record also falls to Bob Kane '34, Bob Kane '34, Dick Schultz, Michael Slive, Laing Kennedy '63,  Charlies Moore '52, and Noel.
* Football has always been a weak point, never an unshared Ivy League title.
* A decade with Cornell's losingest football coach went on too long. Noel had the decency to not fire then hire a football coach in the year before retiring and have Moore stuck with that choice.

Unfounded and uncalled for? Here's my perception. Andy was an unpleasant person. He cared about wrestling and sometimes only that. He liked to insert himself into lacrosse huddles. The department came across as amateur hour compared to other schools. He saw students as a nuisance. He gladly threw Cornell students under the bus whenever convenient.


Moore, by contrast, seems to care about building a community and culture that doesn't treat students as a problem to be dealt with. And in a short time has created a cohesive communication style and presence that is actually professional.  

She inherited lacrosse and hockey success just like Andy did. But the image she presents to the outside is so much better than Andy's. And I'd bet that it makes some impact on recruiting across sports.

So yes. Andy being someone I find distasteful does make Moore look great. In other words, nothing made her look good quite like two decades of Andy.

I can't be certain that it was directly her call, but I do also have to note — during her first summer in charge, Athletics retired "Huggy Bear," which had been the official logo for two decades.

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Quote from: TrotskyI had no idea the Dartmouth basketball team was going before the NLRB.

If Dartmouth basketball players demand to be paid, the end result isn't them getting paid, it's Dartmouth cutting their basketball program. What am I missing?

According to adamw, nothing at all:
https://twitter.com/CHN_AdamWodon/status/1754641763996672059

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Quote from: TrotskyI'd like to think he was offered a position with the university.  He couldn't cut it as the HC but as someone said above he bleeds Carnellian and white, and that's worth something to me.

+2. Time for a change, but no personal vendetta from me. Best to him and his folks.

And I thought the tone of the official announcement was spot on in acknowledging and respecting that. Well done.

https://twitter.com/jeremy_hartigan/status/1726373544462864470
In his personal capacity, Cornell SID Jeremy Hartigan (who I presume wrote the statement): "David Archer has always been a terrific leader of young men, and maybe no one in my lifetime has committed more energy into trying to get Cornell football to win. The positive impact he's had on Big Red student-athletes and the department is immeasurable. I only hope my two kids find a role model like him in a coach at some point in their lives. They'll be better for it."

Quote from: billhowardWith the season ended, the most likely outcome is for David Archer to step down as head football coach or be removed. Given his two-decade career with Cornell (including as a player), he might find a second life in athletics or Cornell administration.

The decision will be easier – less hard – to make this year:
* Cornell football lost 3 more games than the best-under-Archer .500 of 2022
* There's a newer, younger athletics director (read: could be building a record at Cornell for a higher position in 5 years, or could be here into the 2040s because Cornell is not a low-level AD's job), one who did not make the hire
* Ten seasons (11 years including the Covid bye year) is a round number, time to take stock
*  The last time it made clear sense to move on was 2018, the second straight 3-7 season and an Ivy record that fell from 3-4 to 2-5. 2019, Cornell had its best ever Archer-era Ivy season (tie for fourth on a 3-4 record). 2020 was the Covid year, not going to make a move then. 2021 was the worst record, 2-8, since 2015, but maybe Noel knew then he was leaving in a year and wanted (rightly) to let the new AD make the hire. 2022 was Archer's best season if only a 2-5 Ivy record.

If it happens, it should happen quickly. It gives the assistants a better chance to find new jobs. And for Archer to find a new role outside Cornell, although his leadership abilities and his years here make him equally suited for a job in athletics or Cornell-elsewhere.

It has happened quickly; official announcement: Cornell Announces Change in Football Leadership

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Quote from: arugulaJake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

Official announcement from Athletics: Cornell Announces Change in Football Leadership

Quote from: jmeaneyjrOkay, thankfully it is over.
Simply put, Archer should be gone tonight. Get serious about it - stop the charade...

The thought is in the right place, but the timing is off. Ideally, Nicki Moore would've met Archer on the field as the teams departed and handed him the pink slip right then and there, as the Arizona State brass did to Herm Edwards early last season.

29-71 overall, 19-51 in the Ivy League, punctuated by a loss at home to a team previously winless in conference.

This should be the end — but the thing is, I don't know that it will be. I wouldn't put anything past anyone in the top echelons of Cornell Athletics at this juncture.

The combination of NCAA rules and Ivy League rules prohibits Stanford from joining the conference.

The NCAA Division I manual. On page 398 (411 of the PDF), Bylaw 20.10.3.2 specifies minimums of financial aid that Division I institutions must award, both in relative terms (percentage of maximum allowable aid awards) and absolute terms (dollar figures). Bylaw 20.10.3.2.7, on the following page, is the grandfather provision that allows the Ivy League to remain at this level:

QuoteMember institutions that did not award any athletically related financial aid in any sport as of January 11, 1991, shall be exempted from the minimum requirements.

Any Division I school wanting to cease awarding scholarships that isn't covered by the clause would have to drop to Division III, as the University of Hartford is in the process of doing.

Of course, this could be rendered moot if the former student-athletes suing the Ivy League for antitrust violations in the aftermath of the expiration of Section 568 (discussed in a thread in Other Sports) prevail over the conference.

Bracket:

(1) Duke v. Delaware/Marist
( Cornell v. Michigan — Sunday, 2:30 pm ET, ESPNU

(4) Maryland v. Army
(5) Penn State v. Princeton

(3) Notre Dame v. Utah
(6) Johns Hopkins v. Bryant

(7) Georgetown v. Yale
(2) Virginia v. Richmond

According to the printable bracket, if the seeds were to all hold, the 1/8 and 2/7 quarterfinals are in Albany, and the 3/6 and 4/5 quarterfinals in Annapolis.

League awards announced.

Cornell honorees:

POTY: CJ Kirst
COTY: Connor Buczek

FIRST TEAM: CJ Kirst*, Hugh Kelleher, Gavin Adler*, Chayse Ierlan*

SECOND TEAM: Jack Follows

HONORABLE MENTION: Billy Coyle, Jack Cascadden

* = unanimous first team selection

Don Vaughan retires.

(CHN story.)

Quote from: ugarteCanisius up 2-1 on an incredibly pretty goal

All Gophers after that; 9-2 Minnesota, final. They face St. Cloud State on Saturday evening.