Final Four (all games)

Yawn.

Wisconsin 8, RIT 1 (Final)
BC 3, Miami 0 (Mid 2d)

ugarte
Yawn.

Wisconsin 8, RIT 1 (Final)
BC 3, Miami 0 (Mid 2d)

Yeah, two brutal games. I thought BC-Miami would be entertaining, but no luck with that

BC now up 7-1 late.

It was mentioned during the Wisconsin game that the Badgers have something like two number one and three number two draft picks (or vice-versa) among their defensive corps. Food for thought when discussing our ability to compete with the very top programs.

scoop85

ugarte
Yawn.

Wisconsin 8, RIT 1 (Final)
BC 3, Miami 0 (Mid 2d)

Yeah, two brutal games. I thought BC-Miami would be entertaining, but no luck with that

It was very entertaining to see the mass exodus of fans by the time BC got to goal 5, 6, and 7.

scoop85
It was mentioned during the Wisconsin game that the Badgers have something like two number one and three number two draft picks (or vice-versa) among their defensive corps. Food for thought when discussing our ability to compete with the very top programs.

I mentioned on Chat that anyone who wanted to criticize Coach Schafer's style, just had to watch re-runs of the RIT game. Aside from no time, I was going to look up how many draft choices, and their ranking, each league has. Does anyone know if that's easily available somewhere?

Jim Hyla

scoop85
It was mentioned during the Wisconsin game that the Badgers have something like two number one and three number two draft picks (or vice-versa) among their defensive corps. Food for thought when discussing our ability to compete with the very top programs.

I mentioned on Chat that anyone who wanted to criticize Coach Schafer's style, just had to watch re-runs of the RIT game. Aside from no time, I was going to look up how many draft choices, and their ranking, each league has. Does anyone know if that's easily available somewhere?

I have not seen a list, but it wouldn't be hard to click on each roster here [www.collegehockeystats.net] and then just count how many players on each team have NHL abbreviations by their name.

So we lost 6-2, to a team that lost 6-2, to a team that lost 8-1. If BC beats Wisconsin does that make us the worst team ever?

French Rage
So we lost 6-2, to a team that lost 6-2, to a team that lost 8-1. If BC beats Wisconsin does that make us the worst team ever?

I don't know about worst team ever, but it does mean Cornell would lose to BC by at least 16 goals. This is clearly because defensive systems are inferior, and run-and-gun teams like BC are built for national success.

Tom Lento

French Rage
So we lost 6-2, to a team that lost 6-2, to a team that lost 8-1. If BC beats Wisconsin does that make us the worst team ever?

I don't know about worst team ever, but it does mean Cornell would lose to BC by at least 16 goals. This is clearly because defensive systems are inferior, and run-and-gun teams like BC are built for national success.

We'd probably be able to clutch and grab enough to make it more on the order of a 10 or 12 goal deficit.

The transitive property can be a real bitch.

French Rage
So we lost 6-2, to a team that lost 6-2, to a team that lost 8-1. If BC beats humiliates Wisconsin does that make us the worst team ever?

Well, it doesn't reflect well...

Great camera work at the end. It is apparently more important to show the despondent Wisconsin players gathering in the puck as the clock ticks off the final few seconds than to change cameras in time to see BC explode off of the bench in celebration.

Congrats to BC. What an amazing decade they've had.

Kudos to Gary Thorne for dinging the ice conditions and (Thorne not Barry Melrose?) saying a title game belongs in a real rink with real ice that won't go bad on you (but it's okay to do this rink on a football / baaseball field as a regular season gimmick). This was before the Wisconsin breakaway early in the third with the score still 1-0 and the puck hopped over the Wisconsin stick.)

Wnen Barry Melrose he dies, you could give him an enema and bury him in a showbox. But while he's a alive, he is so much fun to listen to. He speaks his mind but he's mostl good natured. Plus he did pick Miami and Cornell for the title game.

Three in a row for Eastern teams. After six in a row for the West and something like 13 of the last 20 for the West.

Even after getting clobbered 8-1, RIT must be pretty happy to be there. And Miami must feel like crap. Last minute choke costs them the 2009 title, then blown out this year in the semis.

I guess Steve Donahue does appreciate a winning hockey tradition.

One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

billhoward

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

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billhoward

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture. Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot. Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting. It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?

redice

billhoward

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture. Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot. Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting. It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?

I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.

Jim Hyla

redice

billhoward

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture. Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot. Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting. It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?

I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.

You right, Jim. It's not an issue of forehand/backhand. It's just the fact that, rather than take that quick backhand shot, they make some other move (pass it, bring it to the forehand, etc). If that quick shot is a backhand, take it!! That's not happening now....I think they lack confidence in it. Thus, my feeling that they should practice it.

Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

judy

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

Wow, that was cool that he heard and saw us. I hope the GM and hockey guys in Ottawa watch this link to see what a fantastic person they have drafted. I really hope Colin lands in a good organization that will use and appreciate his talents.

Have I mentioned how much I am going to miss Greening?

judy

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with.

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size. Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

He has class. The only other fans he gives any credit to are, you know, the Clarkson fans. Also, note that he has been impressed with how well in sync the Cornell cheers are.

RichH

judy

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with.

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size. Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

I know you're loud, but it didn't seem like it carried all that far beyond our section.

judy

RichH

judy

mnagowski
Greening gives a nice shout out to the Lynah Faithful who were cheering for him in Detroit:

[www.cornell.edu]

I am really surprised that he heard us. Sound got swallowed in Ford Field.

You forgot who you were sitting with.

And it really wasn't that bad for sound, considering the size. Scersk and I did an echo test, and ruled that it wasn't as sound-sucking as we thought.

I know you're loud, but it didn't seem like it carried all that far beyond our section.

I think we're all forgetting that Colin Greening has super-human hearing to go along with the rest of his super-human self.

mnagowski
I think we're all forgetting that Colin Greening has super-human hearing to go along with the rest of his super-human self.

But he also said that the CU pep band was the best so I am not too sure of his hearing.

redice

Jim Hyla

redice

billhoward

redice
One small thing that I noticed was the number of players at the Frozen Four who would (& did) take backhand shots on goal.

Our players are very hesitant to do that. I've seen so many situations, over the years, where our players will lose a scoring opportunity because they do whatever it takes to shoot with the forehand. Time lost; scoring opportunity lost.

At least two of BC's goals were scored on the backhand last night. Not hard shots. Just quick shots that caught the goalie unprepared. We need to do more of this!!

These guys need to practice the backhand shot. In practice, give em pucks & tell them that they can only shoot on the back hand. They'll get better at it, if they practice.

I don't want to believe that this year's Frozen Four players are just so much better than Cornell's (that they can score freely on the backhand and we rarely try).

Not only were the BC players taking backhand shots on goal, they were taking shots on goal. Both differ from Cornell's style of play that calls for quality SOG. At BC, Blake Gallagher and Topher Scott would be big enough to be the enforcers. Mike Schafer's style of play works for the way he coaches and the players he recruits and maybe for the players he can't recruit, so he turns to teamwork and defense and if it hasn't gotten us a title yet, it's been better than the rest of the ECAC the last decade.

BC sure was fun to watch. Just as they were two years ago when Gerbe was their sparkplug / fire plug (5-foot-5?).

While your points are valid, I still think that encouraging the use of backhand shots (even if only occasionally) could help the offensive output without any change in style and certainly no decrease in our defensive posture. Think of the scoring opportunities that are not even considered because the player can't get the puck onto his forehand and still have a shot. Those are the missed opportunities that I'm lamenting. It's part of a skill set that I think they need to work on....What could it possibly hurt?

I think that the problem is not so much a backhand/forehand one, although heaven knows Melrose loved the backhand, but that sometimes a quick shot is better than a hard shot. A wrister may be better than a slap shot. You just catch the goalie out of position.

You right, Jim. It's not an issue of forehand/backhand. It's just the fact that, rather than take that quick backhand shot, they make some other move (pass it, bring it to the forehand, etc). If that quick shot is a backhand, take it!! That's not happening now....I think they lack confidence in it. Thus, my feeling that they should practice it.

For an example of an excellent backhand, check out Pittsburgh's third goal against Ottawa tonight, scored by Craig Adams.

[video.nhl.com]

ok thanks for posting video

Iceman778
ok thanks for posting video

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