Alumni in the Pros JULY '06

Started by rmandel, July 10, 2006, 08:56:45 AM

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KeithK

[quote Jim Hyla]You don't have to graduate to be an alum.[/quote]I don't know how the Alumni Association defines alumnus.  But the American Heritage dictionary defines alumnus as "A male graduate or former student of a school, college, or university" (via dictionary.com).  That's consistent with my general understanding of the term in the collegiate context.  Then again, Merriam-Webster's second definition is "a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate", which would seem to validate Jim's assertion.  In this contaxt, Jim is probably right since we're really talking about former members of the hockey team, whether or not they satisfied academic requirements for graduatation.


Regardless of how you define alumnus, redhair34 was being somewhat picky in his original complaint about the OP. So I responded by being more picky about guys like McKee and Pokulok. Regardless, a good opportunity to run up the post count in July. :-)

DeltaOne81

[quote Rita][quote Liz '05][quote Chris '03]
I think it's safe to say that the casual fan doesn't spend a July afternoon checking up former Cornell hockey players in the pros. Though perhaps we could start a "Mitch Carefoot: What does his senior season hold?" thread just to allay any fears that he has both graduated and gone pro.  :-D[/quote]

Who said we were casual fans? :-}

It's probably safe to say the casual fan would miss this conversation entirely, because they wouldn't be thinking about hockey in July.  On the other hand, I'm planning a trip to Estero in December.[/quote]

So is it too early for the "Estero - Roll Call" Thread? ;-)

Count me and my 5 year old nephew in. My niece (11 months in December) is too young. My sister-in-law says she has to be at ~ 2 years old before I can take her to a game. A few weeks ago my nephew told me he was going to play hockey at Cornell and wear #14. When the "Class of 2023 Recruits" Thread gets going, I'll add his name to the list. :-)[/quote]


Cool, glad I'm not the only one :). Em and I have been looking at this again, after being way too late last year, I was glad to remember real early this time around. So, I remember (I think Rita) saying last year to checkout Southwest, but I noticed that there flights are still only up to October. Would we have to wait another 2 months to get December? And is that a good idea?

Any hints on hotels or cars are welcome too. My usual Priceline approach probably won't work so well in Floriday over the holiday week.

Beeeej

[quote KeithK][quote Jim Hyla]You don't have to graduate to be an alum.[/quote]I don't know how the Alumni Association defines alumnus.  But the American Heritage dictionary defines alumnus as "A male graduate or former student of a school, college, or university" (via dictionary.com).  That's consistent with my general understanding of the term in the collegiate context.  Then again, Merriam-Webster's second definition is "a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate", which would seem to validate Jim's assertion.[/quote]

The American Heritage definition, which includes "former student," would seem to validate Jim's assertion just as much as Merriam-Webster's does.

In any event, I can't speak for them now, but when I worked there (1995-2000), Cornell's Division of Alumni Affairs & Development defined "alumnus/alumna" as any individual who had matriculated at Cornell.

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

pfibiger

Since it doesn't fit under "Current Team Members In Pro Prospect Camps" i'll post it here. An article about Pokulok at the Capitals' development camp:

http://www.pennlive.com/bears/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/115257391722380.xml&coll=1
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

Al DeFlorio

Telling comment by McPhee: "It seemed like he got too comfortable at the college level."
Al DeFlorio '65

KeithK

Who says engineers trying to run the post count up have any skillin reading comp.?  I read the AH defn. as "A male graduate -------------- of a school, college, or university" and took that as validation.  Heh.

pfibiger

Another article about Sasha going pro:

http://www.ldnews.com/sports/ci_4036711

"And even if his mother isn't completely convinced, Sasha Pokulok figures he made the right decision."
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

Brian

[quote Trotsky]Yikes, don't do that!  The Carefoot reference definitely made me worry I'd missed something big.  It has nothing to do with being graduated and everything with still being on the team.

On to other alumni: whither Nieuwy?  Has he officially retired?[/quote]

How about Moulson, have the Penguins started camp?

schoaff

[quote Rita]A few weeks ago my nephew told me he was going to play hockey at Cornell and wear #14. When the "Class of 2023 Recruits" Thread gets going, I'll add his name to the list. :-)[/quote]

Lucky you. When my daughter was 4 she told me she wanted to play ice hockey for the University of Hawaii. I didn't have the heart to break it to her. :-)

ebilmes

[quote Rita] A few weeks ago my nephew told me he was going to play hockey at Cornell and wear #14. When the "Class of 2023 Recruits" Thread gets going, I'll add his name to the list. :-)[/quote]

Tell him he'll have to work on staying awake through a game before he does that.

Rita

[quote ebilmes][quote Rita] A few weeks ago my nephew told me he was going to play hockey at Cornell and wear #14. When the "Class of 2023 Recruits" Thread gets going, I'll add his name to the list. :-)[/quote]

Tell him he'll have to work on staying awake through a game before he does that.[/quote]

Touche. He better stay awake through the games this year or I may need help carrying him out!! I'm not sure what the latest height/weight stats are, but he was pushing my limits last year. :-)

CKinsland

[Q]My niece (11 months in December) is too young. My sister-in-law says she has to be at ~ 2 years old before I can take her to a game.[/Q]
Hmmm.  Dunno.  In my experience, kids are easiest to bring to game from age 0-2 then again from age 6 (if interested in hockey, 8 if not) up.

Both my kids came to games from shortly after birth until they were just shy of two.  Now they stay with grandma for the games.  From 0-2, they nursed and slept during play.  Watched the Zamboni with fascination during breaks.  They do like to go to the women's games and had fun at last night's alumni game in Lansing, but the men's home games are too crowded, too loud and too restrictive for them.

CK

Rita

[quote CKinsland][Q]My niece (11 months in December) is too young. My sister-in-law says she has to be at ~ 2 years old before I can take her to a game.[/Q]
Hmmm.  Dunno.  In my experience, kids are easiest to bring to game from age 0-2 then again from age 6 (if interested in hockey, 8 if not) up.

Both my kids came to games from shortly after birth until they were just shy of two.  Now they stay with grandma for the games.  From 0-2, they nursed and slept during play.  Watched the Zamboni with fascination during breaks.  They do like to go to the women's games and had fun at last night's alumni game in Lansing, but the men's home games are too crowded, too loud and too restrictive for them.

CK[/quote]

I agree. However, it isn't my child so I'm at the discretion of my sister-in-law, who isn't a big hockey fan and would not come along. So I have to wait until they are 2 before I can take them out on my own.  My nephew first came with me to the Everblades Tourney right before his 3rd birthday. For the first game it was just the 2 of us and due to musical cars (too many drivers, not enough vehicles), we got dropped off early and got to watch Cornell warm-up. I remember him standing by the glass and looking at the players and then turning to me and saying "Aunt Ria, they are soooo big".

This year he was so enthralled with it all (at least until he fell asleep ;-)) that he didn't even ask for his gameboy.

The Rancor

doug murray gets one more year with the sharks.

Avash

[quote The Rancor]doug murray gets one more year with the sharks.[/quote]

It's actually a three-year deal.