Section C Diaspora

[Trotsky]

I received an email from a fellow fan who has heard that season ticket holders in section C will be "offered" seating in F and G.

If true, well, golly gee, athletics: way to show your respect and sensitivity for a lot of people who have been supporting the program for, in many cases, several decades.

[Trotsky]

Note that the Athletic Department directory is here: http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/school-bio/corn-school-bio-staff.html

Andy Noel, AD, 607.255.8832
Thelma Reeves, AD admin, 607.255.8832
Gene Nighman, Ticketing Manager, 607.255.3175
Sue Detzer, Hockey admin, 607.255.4171

[Rosey]

[quote Trotsky]I received an email from a fellow fan who has heard that season ticket holders in section C will be "offered" seating in F and G.

If true, well, golly gee, athletics: way to show your respect and sensitivity for a lot of people who have been supporting the program for, in many cases, several decades.[/quote]
It's true they could have moved the townies out of M and around the horseshoe, but my primary concern is that the student section be reunited, and it looks like that's going to happen.  Yaay.

Besides, just sneak over into the student section.  You know you want to, anyway.

Kyle

[Trotsky]

[quote krose][quote Trotsky]I received an email from a fellow fan who has heard that season ticket holders in section C will be "offered" seating in F and G.

If true, well, golly gee, athletics: way to show your respect and sensitivity for a lot of people who have been supporting the program for, in many cases, several decades.[/quote]
It's true they could have moved the townies out of M and around the horseshoe, but my primary concern is that the student section be reunited, and it looks like that's going to happen.  Yaay.

Besides, just sneak over into the student section.  You know you want to, anyway.

Kyle[/quote]
I have no problem giving C to the students -- I've advocated it for years, and I was in C *as a student* back in the day.

I think they should give the evictees the choice of *any* seat in the house not currently occupied by a renewable season ticket holder.  If they choose in A-D, they'll have to stand.  If they choose anywhere else, they don't.

Is that too simple and fair to be adopted?

[Trotsky]

Several C-section alumni will be getting a petition up and we'll be calling the AD's office.  Still time to nip this in the bud, if we're organized about it.

By all means, make C a student standing section.  But give the former C-sectioners options -- don't just evict us; that's a steaming turd sandwich to feed us after decades of loyal support (and donor dollars).

[Chris \'03]

[quote Trotsky]
I have no problem giving C to the students -- I've advocated it for years, and I was in C *as a student* back in the day.

I think they should give the evictees the choice of *any* seat in the house not currently occupied by a renewable season ticket holder.  If they choose in A-D, they'll have to stand.  If they choose anywhere else, they don't.

Is that too simple and fair to be adopted?[/quote]

Well then the current section C reselects section C and it's still not the student section whether they stand or sit.

[WillCMJr]

I feel for the boosters who could potentially get 'booted' and I do believe there should be SOME options.  I also have a good family friend who could be affected by this.  He has great seats, and I will feel bad if he gets booted.

However, with that said, I think they're just fixing a mistake made years ago.  It was stupid to break up the student sections, it decreased the atmosphere and broke up the coordination of the different sections.  I think this is much better for the team and the Lynah atmosphere.  The old saying, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

[WillR]

[quote Trotsky][quote krose][quote Trotsky]I received an email from a fellow fan who has heard that season ticket holders in section C will be "offered" seating in F and G.

If true, well, golly gee, athletics: way to show your respect and sensitivity for a lot of people who have been supporting the program for, in many cases, several decades.[/quote]
It's true they could have moved the townies out of M and around the horseshoe, but my primary concern is that the student section be reunited, and it looks like that's going to happen.  Yaay.

Besides, just sneak over into the student section.  You know you want to, anyway.

Kyle[/quote]
I have no problem giving C to the students -- I've advocated it for years, and I was in C *as a student* back in the day.

I think they should give the evictees the choice of *any* seat in the house not currently occupied by a renewable season ticket holder.  If they choose in A-D, they'll have to stand.  If they choose anywhere else, they don't.

Is that too simple and fair to be adopted?[/quote]


I think you should have said if they choose a section between A-G they have to stand.  That said if the school want to offer them a front row bench in the other sections that would probably work as it would not interfere with the ability of the students to stand.

[KeithK]

[quote WillCMJr]...The old saying, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."[/quote]Are we really at the point where lines from Star Trek count as "old sayings"?

[Will]

[quote KeithK][quote WillCMJr]...The old saying, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."[/quote]Are we really at the point where lines from Star Trek count as "old sayings"?[/quote]
Considering that Wrath of Khan came out some 24 years ago, before most current Cornell undergrads were born, I'd have to say, yeah, that's an old saying. :-P

[REDhead]

I believe that current section C folks will be offered 1st crack at the new seats at the scoreboard end of the rink...otherwise the thought is, that if C goes back to students, there will be a student shift over to the lower alphabet sections, freeing up more room in G and H....

[WillCMJr]

Well, I'm a little worried that you guys think that saying was never used before star trek.  :-}

[WillCMJr]

Just curious as to what new seats at the scoreboard end?

[KeithK]

[quote WillCMJr]Well, I'm a little worried that you guys think that saying was never used before star trek.  :-}[/quote]Certainly the concept was not invented by Mr. Roddenberry.  Not sure about the exact quote.  I've never heard it in a pre-ST context and a quick Google search seemed to only point to ST references.  This, of course, proves absolutely nothing.  But it was good enough for me to make the previous post.

[andyw2100]

As a student I had seats in B, C, and D through 1986. I left Ithaca for a few years, but got season tickets immediately upon my return to Ithaca in 1990, became a "Booster", and got on the waiting list for Section C tickets. In 1990 my season tickets were somewhere in the East end of the rink, but I always snuck into one of the student sections. By 1991, I believe, I was back in Section C, and have been there ever since. Paying the Section C premium. I might settle for Greg's solution of allowing those of us in C to pick any open seat, knowing that we will need to stand if we pick seats in a student section. While this is not optimal for me, because my daughters might have a tough time seeing, I'd accept it. In fact, I made pretty much this exact suggestion the first time I heard talk of giving Section C back to the students.

But what seems a whole lot fairer is to allow people who will have to move from C to pick seats, based on how long they have had season tickets. So, as a C season ticket holder since 1991, I could take any seat in the house from anyone who had their season tickets for less time than I have had mine. If I happen to relocate someone who had seats in Section M since 1992, tough! They can relocate someone who had seats since 1993 or 1994. Sure, this would be a nightmare for Gene Nighman and his staff, but it would be more fair. Of course I know this will never happen, as it would basically mean a rink-wide shuffle of seats.

As a next best solution, how about offering everyone who has to move out of C their equivalent seats in Section M? Now you'll be "screwing" the people in Section M, but everyone moved out of C should be reasonably happy. Offer the people from M whatever seats they were going to offer those of us in C. Sure, you're still inconveniencing most of an entire section, but now it would not be your most loyal, steadfast fans...fans who have been paying a premium for the Section C seats for, in some cases, decades.

Why should those of us in C get the short end of the stick just because we happen to be in the section the administration wants to give back to the students? Switching Section C to Section M, and relocating people in M is a fairer approach. And I'm not just saying that because I have seats in Section C. (Well, OK, maybe I am, but so what?) I really think this plan would be fairer overall. I really do. Honest.
                   Andy W.