Jersey Question

[Rosey]

[quote DeltaOne81]FYI, you can't order it through the issue room, but I'm pretty sure what the campus store sells are Koronis.[/quote]
No, I was referring to buying official jerseys through the issue room at the same time the team makes their own order.  They won't be game worn, but at least they'll be the genuine thing.

Kyle

[jtwcornell91]

[quote RichH][quote krose]
At least from a distance, the Koronis ones look decent.  The old air-conditioned variety I bought back in '96 (some of you know what I'm talking about!) are pretty awful, near or far. ::yark::  I keep mine hanging in a window now because you can't really get closer than 30 feet from it. [/quote]
And some of us still wear those to games because of superstition and tradition.  At least the stitching is good.  The A/C versions are better than the previous version: the thin, shiney ones with the screened letters that turn pink.[/quote]

I've got one of those that I still wear to college (and some pro) games that Cornell's not in.  In any event, all of these are vastly superior to the Big Red Wings jerseys that PSP was selling for a while that had the wrong color sleeves on the home jersey (and incorrect stripe placement on the away ones).

[jaybert]

Speaking of which...I remember them saying that McKee's parents buy his game-worn jerseys to be auctioned off each year.

Do you all by chance know how much they've gone for?

[Dianne 99]

Okay, here are some close-up shots of the front and the back.

[Trotsky]

[quote billhoward]You know, every time I see that subject line, I forget it's about used uniforms and think it's a big hair question.[/quote]

The ultimate Jersey question is, "what exit"?

[Rosey]

[quote Dianne 99]Okay, here are some close-up shots of the front and the back.[/quote]
Thanks Dianne.

With all due respect to Rich, it looks a lot better than the A/C variety, but the stripe around the waist is still too big, and sewn together from separate pieces instead of being a single piece woven in two colors... and the seams around the shoulders are clearly single-stitched.

Yes, I'm anal, but mainly because I don't want the recipients to think I'm cheap.  I'm going to talk to Bill Reynolds after the season is over and see if he would be willing to (and is able to) order extra sweaters when the team makes their order.

Thanks,
Kyle

[RatushnyFan]

[quote krose]I'm going to talk to Bill Reynolds after the season is over and see if he would be willing to (and is able to) order extra sweaters when the team makes their order.[/quote]
Cool.  Let me know.  I'll order as well.  Could be a profit center for them!!  You'd think it wouldn't be this hard to get a real jersey.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote krose]Yes, I'm anal, but mainly because I don't want the recipients to think I'm cheap. [/quote]

There's a middle ground between being cheap and spending *way* too much money . Depends on the recipient though I 'spose.

[Rosey]

[quote DeltaOne81]There's a middle ground between being cheap and spending *way* too much money . Depends on the recipient though I 'spose.[/quote]
My guess, though, is that the official sweaters really are only about $125, which is, what, twice as much as the Koronis ones? I'd rather be 2-competitive on price and get the real thing.  If they were $500, I'd agree with you.

Kyle

[RichH]

[quote krose]
With all due respect to Rich, it looks a lot better than the A/C variety, but the stripe around the waist is still too big, and sewn together from separate pieces instead of being a single piece woven in two colors... and the seams around the shoulders are clearly single-stitched.[/quote]

No offense taken; it's all personal preference anyway.  These are fan replicas after all, but IMO, they are the best fan replicas that have ever been put out.  Similar differences exist between the NHL replicas and NHL authentics when it comes down to details like the stitching (shoulders & elbows), fight straps, cresting quality, etc (thus the $100 typical price difference).  For many people the replicas should do the job.  And they're accurate, unlike the Big Red Wings ones that JTW referenced.

As for the stripe, the width on the gamers has varied greatly over the years.  Circa 1994-1996, the stripe was even wider than the one on these replicas.  The Bauers they wor around 1999 had a very thin stripe, and the current versions split the difference.  Also varying are the aspect ratio of the lettering of the "CORNELL".  Early '90s had short and squat lettering, late '90s had very tall and thin lettering, and the 'aughts brought a tall, bold, and detached font. The degree of the serifs (notably on the C) has also changed.  

For a good illustration of all those evolutionary changes, compare the 3 pictures on TBRW's front page.  You can really see the stripe width on the Elliott photo.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote krose][quote DeltaOne81]There's a middle ground between being cheap and spending *way* too much money . Depends on the recipient though I 'spose.[/quote]
My guess, though, is that the official sweaters really are only about $125, which is, what, twice as much as the Koronis ones? I'd rather be 2-competitive on price and get the real thing.  If they were $500, I'd agree with you.

Kyle[/quote]

Either you haven't bought a jersey in a while, or your inflation calculations are stuck in the 80s sometime

http://www.koronisjerseys.com/cornell.html

So, if you can get a official one for $125, um, yeah, go for it . But I wouldn't be surprised if they were easily $200 or very possibly significantly more. If you could get them at all, that is.

* Manufactured in hockey conscious Minnesota, USA
* Exact replicas of school's on-ice jerseys
* Custom made to order to ensure the most current team logo and colors
* Tackle twill front logo with embroidered shoulder logo where applicable
* Heavy-duty 150 Denier Polyester Mesh or 100% Polyester Double Knit materials for durability

[Rosey]

[quote DeltaOne81]Either you haven't bought a jersey in a while, or your inflation calculations are stuck in the 80s sometime [/quote]
Or, I paid only $100 for each of my game-worn jerseys 2 and 3 years ago, and I find it hard to believe Athletics would sell anything below cost.  It's highly likely the AD simply gets a volume discount on them, and doesn't pay the conspicuous consumer premium.

Cheers,
Kyle

[DeltaOne81]

[quote krose][quote DeltaOne81]Either you haven't bought a jersey in a while, or your inflation calculations are stuck in the 80s sometime [/quote]
Or, I paid only $100 for each of my game-worn jerseys 2 and 3 years ago, and I find it hard to believe Athletics would sell anything below cost.  It's highly likely the AD simply gets a volume discount on them, and doesn't pay the conspicuous consumer premium.

Cheers,
Kyle[/quote]

A distinct possibility. Although for game worn jerseys I dunno if there's such a thing as 'cost'. They bought them to be worn. Anything they get by reselling is gravy (and plenty of it).

But you *did* say...

My guess, though, is that the official sweaters really are only about $125, which is, what, twice as much as the Koronis ones?

Which was the main point of my saying that estimating a replica jersey at $60 is probably 80s pricing

[Rosey]

[quote DeltaOne81]A distinct possibility. Although for game worn jerseys I dunno if there's such a thing as 'cost'. They bought them to be worn. Anything they get by reselling is gravy (and plenty of it).[/quote]
That's very true.  It's possible they cost a lot more, but for some reason I doubt it: the actual cost of materials, paying some Chinese sweatshop employees a pittance to sew these things together, plus the cost of shipping them over here on the slow boat, is probably on the order of $10, if that.

For replicas, it's probably even cheaper because the materials are much shoddier and the sewing much simpler.  Probably $115 of that $119.95 is pure profit, which they are able to get from you because you want their exclusive branding: the big arched "CORNELL" on the front and the relatively accurate look.

Which was the main point of my saying that estimating a replica jersey at $60 is probably 80s pricing

It's a niche market: you can get replica Rangers jerseys for about $70, but for a smaller market they can probably command more.

Cheers,
Kyle

[Winnabago]

I have a simple question after reading all of this. Do the blanks from Bauer or Nike  come with the Cornell lettering already, or does PSP of Ithaca do this for them as well?  If so, then a blank must be available for 'stitch on demand' or some similar program.  There are so many custom blanks covering so many D1/D3/ECHL/etc. teams in the nation, perhaps there is a stockpile somewhere?

I guess I'm wondering how far back into the supply chain one can go to get that accurate weight.

I suppose if they gave me enough red and white thread, I could make my own ...::whistle::