ECAC first round playoffs - likely winners

[KeithK]

Interesting to note that Union seems to have become a steady middle of the pack ECAC team, as opposed to their first 10 years of bottom dwelling.  They've finished 6, 8, 8, 6 over the last four years, getting first round home ice each time.  Previously they had two 5-6 finishes, three 9-10 and five 11-12 in 10 seasons.  Whether this reflects well on Union or negatively on the ECAC I leave to the reader.

[Trotsky]

[quote KeithK]Interesting to note that Union seems to have become a steady middle of the pack ECAC team, as opposed to their first 10 years of bottom dwelling.  They've finished 6, 8, 8, 6 over the last four years, getting first round home ice each time.  Previously they had two 5-6 finishes, three 9-10 and five 11-12 in 10 seasons.  Whether this reflects well on Union or negatively on the ECAC I leave to the reader.[/quote]

I think it may just come down to Trevor Koenig and Kris Mayotte.  Put an excellent goaltender behind a 9-12 team and you've got a 5-8 team.

[KeithK]

[quote Trotsky][quote KeithK]Interesting to note that Union seems to have become a steady middle of the pack ECAC team, as opposed to their first 10 years of bottom dwelling.  They've finished 6, 8, 8, 6 over the last four years, getting first round home ice each time.  Previously they had two 5-6 finishes, three 9-10 and five 11-12 in 10 seasons.  Whether this reflects well on Union or negatively on the ECAC I leave to the reader.[/quote]

I think it may just come down to Trevor Koenig and Kris Mayotte.  Put an excellent goaltender behind a 9-12 team and you've got a 5-8 team.[/quote]No, no, no!  Goaltenders are just a product of the defensive system!  How can you still not know this?

But seriously, that's a good point.  We'll see how the Dutchmen fare without Mayotte next season.

[min]

Here's another way of determining Cornell's next opponent:

Exactly 0 upsets (all higher seeds advance)
Union

Exactly 1 upset
Union (if Princeton or QU wins)
RPI (if Yale or Brown wins)

Exactly 2 upsets
Union (if both Princeton and QU win)
RPI (if Princeton and Yale OR Princeton and Brown win)
Clarkson (if QU and Brown OR QU and Yale OR Yale and Brown win)

Exactly 3 upsets
QU (if QU, Brown and Yale win)
Princeton (all other three combinations)

Exactly 4 upsets (no higher seeds advance)
QU


In sum, in terms of percentage of becoming Cornell's next rival (if I'm not mistaken):
Union (25%)
RPI (25%)
Clarkson (18.75%)
Princeton (18.75%)
Quinnipiac (12.5%)

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote dford'94]Let's not discount the fact that Union has NEVER won a playoff series in their ECAC history and they have been hosts on at least two occasions.[/quote]
This could be the series where no one advances.  

Yale's ECAC tournament record is abysmal, as well, in that they've failed to get past the first series in their last seven tournaments (three times as the higher seed).  Their last advance was in 1998 when, as the #1 seed, it took two last-minute Ray Giroux miracles to avoid being bounced by #10 SLU in the first round.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Al DeFlorio]Yale's ECAC tournament record is abysmal, as well, in that they've failed to get past the first series in their last seven tournaments (three times as the higher seed).  Their last advance was in 1998 when, as the #1 seed, it took two last-minute Ray Giroux miracles to avoid being bounced by #10 SLU in the first round.[/quote]

That was the year they played six postseason games and won only one.
::help::

[Liz '05]

How on earth do you play six post-season games and win only once?  Aren't there enough one-and-done games to keep that from happening?

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Liz '05]How on earth do you play six post-season games and win only once?  Aren't there enough one-and-done games to keep that from happening?[/quote]
Two OT ties followed by a win against SLU in the ECAC first round.  Losses in the ECAC semifinal and consolation.  Loss in the NCAA first round.

[Liz '05]

Am I delusional in thinking that you now need to win or lose a game in the post-season - no ties?

I might be...

[Chris \'03]

[quote Liz '05]How on earth do you play six post-season games and win only once?  Aren't there enough one-and-done games to keep that from happening?[/quote]

You could still tie in the quintafinals in the "first to three points" era. My guess is that you can play 6 and win one by going 1-1-1 in the quints, 0-2 at Placid and 0-1 NCAA. '98 was before my time though...

[ursusminor]

[quote Liz '05]How on earth do you play six post-season games and win only once?  Aren't there enough one-and-done games to keep that from happening?[/quote] IIRC, the ECAC tournament first round was first-to-three-points at the time. Yale tied its first two games and then won the third to advance. They then lost the semifinal and final. Fianlly, they lost one game in the NCAA Tourney, for a total record or 1-3-2, or, as JTW wrote, they won one game out of six.

[KeithK]

[quote Chris '03]You could still tie in the quintafinals in the "first to three points" era. My guess is that you can play 6 and win one by going 1-1-1 in the quints, 0-2 at Placid and 0-1 NCAA. '98 was before my time though...[/quote]You couldn't go 1-1-1 in the three point series because with only one tie someone would have to have had 3 points after two games in the series (one win and one tie).

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Liz '05]Am I delusional in thinking that you now need to win or lose a game in the post-season - no ties?
[/quote]
For quite some time it was "first to three points advances."

[Chris \'03]

::doh:: Usually I can count...

1-1-1, 1-0-2... either way the race to three points is dumb.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote ursaminor]They [Yale] then lost the semifinal and final.[/quote]
That would have been one unusual tournament structure. ::nut::