Does anybody else

[French Rage]

[quote KP '06][quote Cornell95][quote nyc94]I really dislike the way Cornell adds on to buildings... Same goes for Duffield being stuck to Phillips.  And could they have matched the stone when they added on to the law school?[/quote]

Well it has been some time since I was on campus and in a design department (Landscape Arch. '95) but I will chime in anyways :-P

I think the decision to place Duffield on the Engineering Quad was a huge mistake and placing it either on the baseball field (softball is already exiled, why not find a new diamond as well) or even better where the current power plant is would have had some real upside [/quote]

Duffield's location is actually serving a purpose -- engineering students finally have a central meeting place. The atrium is packed all day with people studying or just hanging out.[/quote]

Well, they used to have a quad.  I can't really vouch for how much of a meeting place it was since my 4 years only got to have it for one fucking semester.

[billhoward]

At least 400 people are going to absolutely love it. Architecturally, nothing you do to Lynah is going to hurt it, other than maybe putting a Tony Soprano style circletop window in the west end wall. Princeton did a nice job adding a glassed walkway outside the two sides of the rink, and that mixes old and new quite well. The Bartels connector is great for families, people who want cleaner/warmer bathrooms, and the restless. You can be a fan and walk away from your seat between periods. The players are going to like the new facility and so will the women's team. Maybe it'll help their recruiting, too.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote French Rage]
Well, they used to have a quad.  I can't really vouch for how much of a meeting place it was since my 4 years only got to have it for one fucking semester.[/quote]

It wasn't a meeting place at all. It was a nice place to sit on occassion, but not a lot of people did. That said, I think they didn a very nice job with the new quad. People thought there wouldn't really be any quad left after Duffield.

[RichH]

Well, I must say that in thinking of travel details for the D/H weekend, it started to hit me that it will probably be my last time to take in and enjoy the "original configuration" of Lynah Rink, and I intend to savor and capture every last moment of it.

Part of me is sad, but most is accepting.  Time marches on, and sometimes we have to move on.  Original Yankee Stadium, lights in Wrigley, etc.  But I'm with the majority in saying that I'm confident and satisfied that these renovations will keep most of the charm and atmosphere, and that's most important.  Just from reading about it, I think that the renovation will be similar to the one that Appleton got a few years ago, and I think they did a very good job with that.  You can't tell anything was done while simultaneously watching the game and trying to convince the ushers to let you stand (and to meet you after the game...bring the sweaters).

And, selfishly, I've been on the freaking season ticket waiting list since 2001.  If this gets me in faster, let me help with that shovel.

[RichH]

[quote DeltaOne81][quote French Rage]
Well, they used to have a quad.  I can't really vouch for how much of a meeting place it was since my 4 years only got to have it for one fucking semester.[/quote]

It wasn't a meeting place at all. It was a nice place to sit on occassion, but not a lot of people did. That said, I think they didn a very nice job with the new quad. People thought there wouldn't really be any quad left after Duffield.[/quote]

What Fred said.  I was surprised to see how much open space remains.  And now with the landscaping, it affords a natural-themed sitting area outside, and enough room for Ultimate games.

[KeithK]

[q]this is one reason ... that the additon on Sage Hall ... is so diferent in color and module from the historic building (man that was a cool project).[/q]They tore down the historic building!  Sure, they kept the facade but they basically tore it down.  I admit the place was something of a dump by the late 90's and it's kind of cool that they could do it that way, but they still basically tore down a historic building and called it a renovation.  (It still kind of pisses me off.  It was our dump!)

[KeithK]

[q]When was the last major renovation of any sort at Lynah?[/q]Depends what you mean by "major".  I don't remember any renovations that would count as major in my book.  The rink got new boards and compressors sometime in the last five years or so.  The new press box was put in the late 90's.  The home locker rooms were redone in the 90's as well, I think.  And the building was attached to Alberding in the 1990 timeframe.  But more or less the layout of the rink hasn't changed since it was built.

[RichH]

Sorry for pulling quotes from all over to confuse you wacky "threaded view" people...

[quote KeithK]1) I don't like the idea of "premium seating" [/quote]
You mean like Section C?  I'm sure those molded-ass seats were considered premium when they decided to put them in.  :-)

[quote Kyle](3) They'll obviously be replacing the nasty, communal men's bathroom behind section A. [/quote]
Name a bathroom at an arena that isn't communal.  At least we don't have a trough.  Nasty...point taken, but you don't have to go outside to reach the de-nastified Field House bathrooms.

[quote FrenchRage]When was the last major renovation of any sort at Lynah?[/quote]
They replaced the boards, lights, and ice surface cooling system several summers ago.  But that didn't really effect the non-photography fan experience.  The Lynah Bounce (tm) ceased to be, but haven't people commented this year that the ice has looked slushy?  What happened?

[quote KeithK]Buildings built at different times look differently, as opposed to a place like Princeton or Miami of Ohio where everything has to fit a specific style. The Lynah/Alberding juxtaposition reflects this (though I'm not claiming that this effect was intentional). [/quote]
Or Stanford.  :-P  Give me Berkeley's campus anyday over that isolated, faux Spanish Mission, homogeneity.

The Lynah/Alber-what now?  :-)

[Cornell95]

[quote KeithK]They tore down the historic building!  Sure, they kept the facade but they basically tore it down.  I admit the place was something of a dump by the late 90's and it's kind of cool that they could do it that way, but they still basically tore down a historic building and called it a renovation.  (It still kind of pisses me off.  It was our dump!)[/quote]

From what I remember the dining hall in the basement had a major cockroach problem among other things... might have been one of the reasons they took out everything.  Plus the top 3 floors used to be dorm rooms, which would have needed crazy renovation to be turned into suitable offices/classroom space

I had a good friend who lived there the last year it was dorm, total hole, but what a location, roll out of bed, grab a bagel from the dining hall and 5 minutes to the Arts/Ag/Engin quad

[KeithK]

[quote RichH][quote KeithK]1) I don't like the idea of "premium seating" [/quote]
You mean like Section C?  I'm sure those molded-ass seats were considered premium when they decided to put them in.  :-)[/quote]If the premium seats end up being like Section C then I'm basically OK with it.  I just hope they don't try to go for anything overly upscale - some sort of real "I'm too good for the rest of you rabble" boxes.

[WillR]

[quote Cornell95][quote KeithK]They tore down the historic building!  Sure, they kept the facade but they basically tore it down.  I admit the place was something of a dump by the late 90's and it's kind of cool that they could do it that way, but they still basically tore down a historic building and called it a renovation.  (It still kind of pisses me off.  It was our dump!)[/quote]

From what I remember the dining hall in the basement had a major cockroach problem among other things... might have been one of the reasons they took out everything.  Plus the top 3 floors used to be dorm rooms, which would have needed crazy renovation to be turned into suitable offices/classroom space

I had a good friend who lived there the last year it was dorm, total hole, but what a location, roll out of bed, grab a bagel from the dining hall and 5 minutes to the Arts/Ag/Engin quad[/quote]


While I never saw Cage in its old form, I think they did a great job with the place.  While it is true that only the facade and two chandeliers remain of the old place they did a good job of keeping what was important, namely the outside.  If anyone can think of a great place that existed on the inside I am all ears.

In the end it's functional, makes a good use of space, and has a clear distinction of old and new.  Of places to be trapped for 2 years I couldn't ask for much more.   Lastly, the atrium is fantastic.

-WillR
MBA '06

[Josh '99]

[quote RichH][quote FrenchRage]When was the last major renovation of any sort at Lynah?[/quote]
They replaced the boards, lights, and ice surface cooling system several summers ago.  But that didn't really effect the non-photography fan experience.  The Lynah Bounce (tm) ceased to be, but haven't people commented this year that the ice has looked slushy?  What happened?[/quote]Could it just be that it's been a warm winter?  There've been a few record high days in January.

[Rosey]

[quote WillR]If anyone can think of a great place that existed on the inside I am all ears.[/quote]
I loved Sage Dining.  I ate late lunch there for an entire semester after my OS class, and frequently ate there at other times when I happened to be on central campus.  Very convenient, and much less crowded than Chokenshits.  I also loved the ambience of the dungeons: I never got completely used to the layout, and it always seemed like there was one more table to be had at the busiest times, if you just rounded another two turns in the dungeons.

And I never saw a cockroach.  That doesn't mean, however, that I didn't ingest one...

Cheers,
Kyle

[Josh '99]

[quote Cornell95]Another factor is that local and state level historical societies have been pushing architects to make stronger distinctions between existing structures and additions... this is one reason (there may be others as well) that the additon on Sage Hall (library plus other stuff) is so diferent in color and module from the historic building (man that was a cool project).[/quote]The story that had been going around campus after the Sage renovations were completed was that the new brick didn't match the old brick because they had selected new bricks to match the old bricks as they looked in the building, but then once the old bricks were cleaned up they weren't the same color.  Does sound kind of boneheaded for a big university with a good architecture school, maybe your explanation is actually true.

[Josh '99]

[quote RichH]I think that the renovation will be similar to the one that Appleton got a few years ago, and I think they did a very good job with that.  You can't tell anything was done while simultaneously watching the game and trying to convince the ushers to let you stand (and to meet you after the game...bring the sweaters).[/quote]Agreed.  I think the new Appleton lobby looks very good with the remainder of the rink.

I also think we need to go back sometime.  Forgot about those ushers.  :-D