CSTV Poll: Best student section in hockey

Started by CowbellGuy, February 07, 2006, 12:48:44 PM

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ugarte

[quote billhoward][quote jmh30]That one calls for ballot-stuffing.  B-][/quote]
Treat the poll with the appropriate dignity and gravitas.[/quote]We did.

KeithK

In this particular case, even the stuffed poll results may mean something when the question is along the lines of which fan base is most dedicated.  The most dedicated fans put the most effort into stuffing the ballot box or at least promoting the poll to influence the result.

Beeeej

It's not that big a leap from "best student section" to "most absurdly dedicated fans with no lives," but I don't think that's quite what they were hoping to learn.  :-P

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Trotsky

[quote Beeeej]I don't think that's quite what they were hoping to learn.[/quote]
Seeing as it's already been long established.

jtwcornell91

More to the point, why isn't tUMD listed.  Oh, right, they're not a big school with name recognition.

French Rage

[quote KeithK]In this particular case, even the stuffed poll results may mean something when the question is along the lines of which fan base is most dedicated.  The most dedicated fans put the most effort into stuffing the ballot box or at least promoting the poll to influence the result.[/quote]

I can sleep at night with that justification. :-D
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Beeeej

[quote French Rage]I can sleep at night with that justification. :-D[/quote]

Slut!

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona


ebilmes

I don't know; I don't see any reason not to ballot stuff. If we truly believe Cornell has the best student section, then why shouldn't we vote in the poll until we get the result that we feel is right? If some of us are dedicated enough to ballot stuff, my feeling is, why not?

KeithK

[quote ebilmes]I don't know; I don't see any reason not to ballot stuff. If we truly believe Cornell has the best student section, then why shouldn't we vote in the poll until we get the result that we feel is right? If some of us are dedicated enough to ballot stuff, my feeling is, why not? [/quote]And if I really feel that my political party has the best plan for good government, why shouldn't I ballot stuff in November? :-D

But seriously, it's a metter of what the poll is trying to determine.  If it's trying to measure fan dedication then ballot stuffing may lead to a useful result.  If it's about measuring the opinions of the readers of the web site then an  unstuffed poll will be a better measure.  Of course, our efforts at promotion, encouraging folks to go and vote, probably make this poll useless for getting a real measure of opinion.  But to varying degrees that's a feature of all online, self-selected polls.

ebilmes

[quote KeithK]promotion[/quote]

I agree. I think the point of the poll (at least for us) is to increase our exposure as a fan base. A convincing lead in this poll might get us a couple seconds of attention by college hockey fans. If the point of the poll was merely scientific, then a voluntary response online poll really wouldn't be the right choice, anyway.

Jim Hyla

62.8% with my late addition and why is it ballot stuffing if we are all voting or has someone actually written a script that works?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

KeithK

It's only ballot stuffing if someone has taken steps to vote multiple times, manually or via a script  I did vote 3 times, but if they check IP's as Age suggests then I'll have no more than 1 counted.

Scripts have been written and shown to be effective in the past - Lenny's seleciton as more impressive rookie for Phoenix I believe.  I'm not sure the rate of change here is quite so dramatic as to indicate scripting.  Especially since the Coyotes probably get mroe visitors to their site than the CSTV hockey page gets.

RichH

Since I'm sure all CSTV cares about is generating traffic to their website so they can show impressive numbers to potential advertisers, I'm willing to bet that CSTV is pleased as punch to have generated a stuffing campaign for a poll that means approximately diddly times squat.

KeithK

Whaddya mean it means diddly squat!  I thought we had already established that it shows that we are "most absurdly dedicated fans with no lives". :-)