sun article on hockey fans

[A-19]

someone had to post it...

http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/12/02/438ff1b6be9c7

interesting that someone who supposedly loathes cornell hockey fans so much is the sports editor for the daily sun. considering the fact that any given hockey game is the secondmost popular event on campus aside from slope day (by numbers, at least), it's safe to say the author is in the vast minority of the cornell community.

hey christopher, if you don't want your press pass, there are 1,000 students who would (and have) trampled over anyone on campus to have it. it must be realllllllly awful to have those tickets and have to put up with a fan phenomenon that our players indicate week after week to be a positive source of their energy in playing @ home and on the road. it's not like the fans have anyyyyyyy outcome on the game (see boucher, nick).

and don't try and pretend you are sooooo offended by the screaming of one word during the national anthem. not standing during the alma mater doesn't make you a classy or cool fan, it just makes you an outcast and sanctimonious jerk with no semblance of school pride who takes joy in derriding the pride of others in this institution.

i'm sure you'll have enough nasty responses to fill your rebuttal column for next week. that's good, because it will give students a new reason to say borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring during the visiting lineups.

-mike '04

[Tom Tone]

I think he just bought his ticket to the journalist Hall of Fame.  
Finally Mike Volonnino has company.

[jdm]

If you are still questioning if this guy's an idiot check out his picture on his lame website.
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/ccm29/

[Will]

He's just jealous that sprint football never got the fan numbers that hockey does. :-D

[DeltaOne81]

Ah, he's a Yankees fan, that explains it :-P

I quote Greg, I keeeed, I keeeed...
kinda ;-)

[Liz '05]

Oh, c'mon, Chris - you mention an online chat forum but don't give its name.  eLynah.  Is it that hard to say?  Really, "a chat forum for the 11th-ranked team in Division I college hockey" doesn't sound that ridiculous, especially when the preseason #59 team http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0506/polls_0403.htm also has one http://www.ritcornercrew.org/.

And why isn't a discussion of marketing valid?

I'm hoping that Chris is really just playing devil's advocate here...

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]Really, "a chat forum for the 11th-ranked team in Division I college hockey" doesn't sound that ridiculous, especially when the preseason #59 team [insidecollegehockey.com] also has one [www.ritcornercrew.org]. [/Q]

And it also implies that we should create and destroy the forum based on some arbitrary ranking :-P

[Liz '05]

So what arbitrary point in the arbitrary rankings do we use to determine whether the forum should be (arbitrarily) up or down? ::nut::

[cth95]

How can this guy call himself a sports fan if he thinks that going to a hockey game on a Friday or Saturday night (which still leaves time to go to the bars, which most people don't hit until 10PM anyway) means someone has no life?  Does that mean that all Green Bay Packers or New York Giant fans are dorks and have no lives because of the amazingly long wait for season tickets?  Or that Red Sox fans are dorks and have no lives because they are willing to drive from the far corners of northern New England to catch a game once or twice a year and help keep about 3 years of sellouts continuing?  What about Cameron Crazies, the Orange Krush at Illinois, and other intense fan groups?  This guy must think over half the country has no life.  If he can't appreciate the passion of a fan base like the Lynah Faithful, he has no right to be a sports editor.  Too bad Hahvahd must have rejected him, it would have been a much good fit.  

P.S.  Maybe his mommy tucks him in by 11:00 on Friday and Saturdays so if he thinks that if someone goes to the game he doesn't have time to go out.  Unbelievable.  ::rolleyes::

[Bio '04]

[Q]A-19 Wrote:

i'm sure you'll have enough nasty responses to fill your rebuttal column for next week.[/q]

Convenient that he chooses the last day that the Sun will be published for this this semester, isn't it?

[Jacob 03]

First of all, the guy wrote "sike."  Either he or his editor is ten kinds of stupid for this alone.  Most of his other stuff is ridiculously dumb too, but that's true of most cornell sportswriting (and honestly, most sportswriting in general).  The last decent daily sun sports editor I recall was Angel, and that was definitely a number of years ago.  

That being said...

[Q]A-19 Wrote:

 and don't try and pretend you are sooooo offended by the screaming of one word during the national anthem. not standing during the alma mater doesn't make you a classy or cool fan, it just makes you an outcast and sanctimonious jerk with no semblance of school pride who takes joy in derriding the pride of others in this institution.
[/Q]

This is patent speculation and/or untrue.  Maybe his moral outrage or whatever at the actions of Cornell fans is feigned, but it's pretty clear he's trying to express an opinion about the conduct of fans in juxtaposition to what he perceives to be inconsistent behavior on their part.  And at least superficially, it's a remotely apt comparison, so this is the closest thing to reasoned thought that actually appears in his column.  I can think of a million reasons to not stand for the alma mater, few of which have anything to do with lack of school pride or sanctimony.  Most Cornell fans can think of at least a million defenses for screaming a word in an otherwise sung anthem, few of which have anything to do with lack of patriotism or whatever the anthem is supposed to mean these days.  It seems to me he's not so off here, though his motivations for writing it in his column are likely ignoble.

[jtwcornell91]

I didn't realize Larry Winer was the Sun sports editor. ::rolleyes::

[Ben Rocky '04]

I think the most important lesson here is that taking anyone on the Sun's opinion staff seriously is a big freaking mistake.  That said, I vote we spend the next month filling out the comment box on that piece of bad writing with our true thoughts on Chris's facetimerness.  LGR!

[Rosey]

I know exactly which pitfall this guy is falling into, because I had a similar position on another popular Cornell tradition.  I came to realize that I was simply trying to be different for the sake of being different, which is dumb.  If my experience is any indication, he'll get it eventually, maybe after he's out of school for a few years.

That said, he really should give up his press pass to a Sun reporter that will actually enjoy being at the games.

Cheers,
Kyle

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]krose Wrote:

 I know exactly which pitfall this guy is falling into, because I had a similar position on another popular Cornell tradition.  I came to realize that I was simply trying to be different for the sake of being different, which is dumb.  If my experience is any indication, he'll get it eventually, maybe after he's out of school for a few years.[/q]

Yeah, but this guy seems to be that way about every tradition.  It makes you wonder if he's been to an away game at Clarkson or Colgate or anywhere else in college hockey with a similarly active crowd.