Union 2 @ Cornell 1 (postgame thread 11/18/05)

[thr33]

i think we just need to face it -- last year was our year. mckee is absolutley terrible. much worse than mediocre. it's so easy to see how overrated he was. no defense (minus cook and downs), he lets in 2+ goals a game (only facing 13 shots!!!) our offense cant score. yeah, we outplayed union, but we still didnt win, so its a moot point. and union college? are you kidding me? they would get destroyed by any one of the top 10 teams (excluding us of course). without hynes, iggy, knoefpli, downs, cook -- we suck. excuse my language, but moulson is a huge pussy. he plays like one, and acts like one on the ice. it's disappointing. the ONLY player who i can say is actually having a somewhat decent season is carefoot. he's the man. our freshman suck ass. im gonna stop complaining, but ya'll get the point. we blow. something needs to change....

[jlewis]

I wasnt at the darmouth/colgate game to know this, but from the score and recap did anybody see a connection between that game and last night? Us outshooting the other team like crazy but still losing by one goal? I'm being optimistic and hoping we continue the trend and go out tonight and play the game that they played against us last saturday. Lets go red!

jackie

[evilnaturedrobot]

What killed the team last night was poor play from the point on the powerplay, whether it was O'byrne, Sasha, Bitz or even (gasp) Moulson.  The word that sums up the play of our point men last night is indecision.  Too many times it seemed like the guy on the point had no idea what he wanted to do with the puck.  If your gonna shoot it: shoot, if your gonna pass it: pass, but don't hold the puck and not know where it's going.  I saw alot of week wristers from the point last night that could have been one timers had the decision to shoot been made decisivly.  Instead the puck was held for 2 seconds before the decision was made to wrist a shot into the frey which everyone could see coming.
The first (and only) cornell goal last night is proof of why it's always a good idea to put the puck on net.  Put a nice hard shot on net and chances are decent that somthing might happen, in this case it hit a union defenders stick and went in.  Our point men are two concerned with creating the perfect setup or having the perfect shooting lane.  When in doubt just put it on net and see what happens (and make the decision to do it when you get the puck, not two seconds later when everyone knows it's coming.)

[DeltaOne81]

CHILL... THE FUCK... OUT

Last year we went 0-1-1 against MSU and then tied Vt and lost to Dartmouth. And didn't have a very good showing in Florida.

Even in the marvelous 2003 we had a pretty poor showing in Florida, losing two to teams that two definitely should have beaten that year. Oh, and btw, tied Brown.


Yes, this year's team needs improvement, this years team was overrated and saying we would walk away with the ECAC wasn't being fair to last year's senior class. Yes, we need to figure out a number of things.

Btw, McKee let in one goal last night and O'Byrne/Davenport let in the other. When you're criticizing Moulson, despite having 1.43 ppg, DESPITE having 5 men watching him closely every time he steps on the ice, I know you've lost it.


CHILL... THE FUCK... OUT

[evilnaturedrobot]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
When you're criticizing Moulson, despite having 1.43 ppg, DESPITE having 5 men watching him closely every time he steps on the ice, I know you've lost it.
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/19/05 11:46AM by DeltaOne81.[/q]

What do you want me to say?  When he's played the point he's made many of the same mistakes that O'byrne and Sasha have been making when they play the point.  If you ask me it has less to do with the induvidual pointman than the overall powerplay philosophy that this team has had all year.  They've just been too hesitant as a team.

[DeltaOne81]

I never said he's perfect... as I said, a lot of people and the team as a whole need to improve. But calling him a pussy is too far. And you need to chill out.

Maybe you need to get a software upgrade to the "goodnatured" version :-P

[canuck89]

I think everyone here needs to realize that McKee has only had one stellar season here.  We need to all start thinking about what the team needs to win, and maybe realize that McKee won't be the same again.  I'm not saying he will be this bad all season, but numerous teams have replaced their sieve at Lynah.  Why should we leave McKee in all game when he clearly is off his game?  It shouldn't be done as punishment, incentive, etc., but we do need to win and I think Chabot has shown that he is capable of keeping us in the game.  I don't know when to pull McKee, what part of the game or in the season, if he keeps this up, but we shouldn't sit here and praise him as he continues to let in soft goals.  McKee so far has played worse than O'Byrne, yet we use him as everygame's scapegoat.  This team is coming around, and we will win, but McKee may not always be on his game and we should realize that.

[oceanst41]

I have to agree. From my seat in A I was on a line where I could see the Union shooter, then Pegs trying to block his shot, but NOT McKee. I am just assuming that if I couldn't see McKee then McKee couldn't see the shooter fully.

[oceanst41]

That was a pretty good play by Bitz, faking the dump in and then throwing it on net instead. Mayotte must've gotten in a routine of coming out of the net early to stop the dump ins. One miss step or a goal stick that was an inch shorter and that's a goal.

[evilnaturedrobot]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 I never said he's perfect... as I said, a lot of people and the team as a whole need to improve. But calling him a pussy is too far. And you need to chill out.

Maybe you need to get a software upgrade to the "goodnatured" version [/q]


I called him a pussy?

On the contrary, I've been very impressed with Moulson and I think he's been carrying the team. The point that i was trying to make was that even Moulson has looked bad on the point, which leads me to beleive that this a system problem rather than a player problem.

[DeltaOne81]

Okay, it wasn't you I was responding to initially then. I was responding to thr33. I think everyone needs to chill out a bit around here, but he's the only one that needed to chill the fuck out

[oceanst41]

Well on the bright side he only let up two goals on 13 shots, at DC it was 5 in 13 shots ::rolleyes::

[Dafatone]

Pulling McKee wouldn't have helped tonight, as he didn't let in any goals after the 2nd one.

Hell, it was my fault.  I'm down in section G.  Union was on a PP, let a shot go from the point that missed wide by almost a yard, I shouted "You Missed!"  30 seconds later we were down 2-1.

Anyway, We did look bad at the point tonight, but I think we weren't used to Union's penalty kill.  They were much more passive than most of the kills we've seen, crowding in front of the net, and not attacking the point fiercely.  Normally, I'd think this would help us, allowing us to get easier puck movement, but last night we couldn't free up any good shots.

But I agree that we had a lot of weak, indecisive shots coming from the point that could have been stronger slapshots/one-timers.

Last, anyone catch what happened to Moulson's shot at the last second?  I thought it went off Mayotte's blocker, but a friend thought a Union player knocked it away.  For a moment, I really thought we had a goal there.

[oceanst41]

Perfect faceoff win right to him, he moved to his left and the puck rolled off his stick as he shot it. That about sums up the night there.

[Brian]

He missed the net with a defender getting a piece of his stick.