Union 2 @ Cornell 1 (postgame thread 11/18/05)

Started by billhoward, November 18, 2005, 09:28:50 PM

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oceanst41

I haven't really been too worried about McKee until tonight. It wasn't anything I thought he should have saved or could have saved, it was that his routine isn't there anymore.

Goaltending is a lot about confidence, and confident goalies just do their thing as if they are the only ones on the ice. McKee is usually a skater, skating to one corner then the other, tapping the posts and crossbar, then getting set. He never left the net once during the second period when Cornell was defending by my seats. If he skated at the other end I must've missed it, maybe someone else can fill me in. That just worried me a little bit, as it seems he's changing what he normally does.

redhair34

[Q]oceanst41 Wrote:

 I haven't really been too worried about McKee until tonight. It wasn't anything I thought he should have saved or could have saved, it was that his routine isn't there anymore.
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You must not have been at the Dartmouth game:-(

RazzBaronZ

The first 10 minutes of the game, we were clearly outplaying them.  I was really diappointed in the effort being put in on the Cornell side after that.  We didn't hustle nearly as much as I'm used to seeing, and a lot of our passes weren't being caught.  The only part of the game I thought we dominated was the penalty kill.  

We did shine through and hustle at times; we just never kept it going long enough in my opinion.

-Alex Barash '07

oceanst41

No thank god, but I watched online. To be fair the D didn't really help him any in that game. His getting pulled was as much to save what confidence he had left as it was he just didn't have his game that night.

redhair34

[Q]RazzBaronZ Wrote:

 The first 10 minutes of the game, we were clearly outplaying them.  I was really diappointed in the effort being put in on the Cornell side after that.  We didn't hustle nearly as much as I'm used to seeing, and a lot of our passes weren't being caught.  The only part of the game I thought we dominated was the penalty kill.  

We did shine through and hustle at times; we just never kept it going long enough in my opinion.

-Alex Barash '07



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/18/05 10:25PM by RazzBaronZ.[/q]

I thought it was a classic Cornell hockey game.  We kept the puck in their zone all night long.  We won the majority of the battles along the boards.  We actually finished checks.  We dominated the SOG.  We just lost the goaltending battle.

Brian

Coach should start Chabot tommorrow night, McKee is just simply horrible right now.  Anybody know what his save percentage is now?  Agreed, O'byrne is horrible on the powerplay unit, he has no common sense!  Dump the damn puck into the corner if you have no option to pass with a guy coming at you!!!!!::twak::  I think I counted 4 or 5 turnovers by O'byrne at the blue line when we were on the power play.  I also agree with the assessment of the freshmen, they suck, plain and simple.  They have no legs under them yet, and they take stupid penalties.  Where is Barlow?  He seems to be the most productive of our poor freshman class.

Sam \'06

I'm right behind McKee in G and I swear the first goal bounced _down_ after it hit him, someone above said it went off the blocker and that makes sense (I thought it hit his shoulder but the bounce was awful odd).  He must have been a little screened to be out of line like that.

Also, Mayotte almost let in what was practically a dump in during the 2nd, he comitted to his left and had to dive right, it was pretty funny.  He deflected it into the side of the net, almost the post.

It was still a fun time at the game, I thought the reffing was pretty good which is always nice.  Nice scrappy D by Union, there's plenty of time to turn it up before March.

redhair34

[Q]TCHL8842 Wrote:

 [Q2]redhair34 Wrote:

 [Q2]TCHL8842 Wrote:

I think Schaf should sit Krantz and Seminoff both are defensive liabilities.  [/Q]
I thought Seminoff played excellent.  We must have been watching a different game.[/Q]
I just want Seminoff to sit because he seems to be a bit slow in getting to the right spot and takes way way to many penalties.  Sitting him for a game or two will be a wake up call for him to realize if he still takes that many penalties he is going to be sitting[/q]

The penalty he took that put Union on the PP when they scored was a total dive job by Union.

DeltaOne81

[Q]Brian Wrote:

 Coach should start Chabot tommorrow night, McKee is just simply horrible right now.  Anybody know what his save percentage is now?[/q]

I'm sorry, there's no way you can even begin to blame this game on McKee.

Tub(a)

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]Brian Wrote:

 Coach should start Chabot tommorrow night, McKee is just simply horrible right now.  Anybody know what his save percentage is now?[/Q]
I'm sorry, there's no way you can even begin to blame this game on McKee.[/q]

If you take away the first goal, it's at least a tie.

Of course, since Cornell had all the momentum then, it could have been much much more.

Even the D played well tonight. McKee was outplayed by the netminder at the other end of the ice, and that was the difference.
Tito Short!

redhair34

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]Brian Wrote:

 Coach should start Chabot tommorrow night, McKee is just simply horrible right now.  Anybody know what his save percentage is now?[/Q]
I'm sorry, there's no way you can even begin to blame this game on McKee.[/q]

Other than the 2nd goal (which as far as I am concerned was scored by Davenport) he didn't have a single big save to make all game including the one he should have made on the first goal.

Jacob '06

All you people that say there was no way he was screened on that first goal weren't watching the same game I was watching. Pegoraro went down for a block on that shot and either missed it or barely hit the puck, and I think thats why McKee didn't quite get to the right spot to stop it. After he deflected it you saw a look of desperation on his face trying to dive back and get it before it dropped in.

calgARI '07

[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 [Q2]RazzBaronZ Wrote:

 The first 10 minutes of the game, we were clearly outplaying them.  I was really diappointed in the effort being put in on the Cornell side after that.  We didn't hustle nearly as much as I'm used to seeing, and a lot of our passes weren't being caught.  The only part of the game I thought we dominated was the penalty kill.  

We did shine through and hustle at times; we just never kept it going long enough in my opinion.

-Alex Barash '07



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/18/05 10:25PM by RazzBaronZ.[/Q]
I thought it was a classic Cornell hockey game.  We kept the puck in their zone all night long.  We won the majority of the battles along the boards.  We actually finished checks.  We dominated the SOG.  We just lost the goaltending battle.[/q]


See, I thought it was more of a classic Cornell-Union game of the last few years.  Was very similar to the game that was played at Union last year, at Union in 03-04 and at home vs. Union in 03-04.

Chris \'03

[Q]Jacob '06 Wrote:

 All you people that say there was no way he was screened on that first goal weren't watching the same game I was watching. Pegoraro went down for a block on that shot and either missed it or barely hit the puck, and I think thats why McKee didn't quite get to the right spot to stop it. After he deflected it you saw a look of desperation on his face trying to dive back and get it before it dropped in.[/q]

If you have all-access, the video archive is already up. The goals comes about 37 minutes into the video so you can see for yourself. I'm not smart enough to make a screen capture and post it here. Perhaps someone else can. The angle gives you a good idea of the traffic (one white jersey on one knee) between McKee and the shooter.

Jacob '06

[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:

 [Q2]Jacob '06 Wrote:

 All you people that say there was no way he was screened on that first goal weren't watching the same game I was watching. Pegoraro went down for a block on that shot and either missed it or barely hit the puck, and I think thats why McKee didn't quite get to the right spot to stop it. After he deflected it you saw a look of desperation on his face trying to dive back and get it before it dropped in.[/Q]
If you have all-access, the video archive is already up. The goals comes about 37 minutes into the video so you can see for yourself. I'm not smart enough to make a screen capture and post it here. Perhaps someone else can. The angle gives you a good idea of the traffic (one white jersey on one knee) between McKee and the shooter. [/q]

My point being that the one player on one knee prevented Mckee from seeing the angle the shot came from, or tipped the puck and changed the angle of the shot. That was my impression seeing the goal live, I don't have all access so I don't have the pleasure of replay. If I'm wrong i'm wrong, the people with the replay can tell it how it is.