Elliott

Started by ugarte, June 09, 2002, 02:06:23 PM

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Al DeFlorio

Or Rogie Vachon in 1971--who played almost every game for Les Habitants in the regular season but rode the pine throughout the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Al - since Vachon played in more than half of the regular season games he qualified for listing even if he didn't play in the Finals.  (And I don't think the new rule went into effect until 1977).


Sarli

wouldn't goalie standards be different? How many teams alternate goalies and WIN the Cup?  Most often the winning team has a great goalie and a back up, who never sees the ice.  The skaters can jump on the ice for a 20 second shift and be considered to have played in a game.  Last I've checked, goalies don't do line changes, so it stands to reason that if you dressed for the game then you'd be eligible and it would be a 'team'  decision to enscribe you or not.  though I think its a stretch for the back up goalie's back-up to get on the cup.  But he's got a 0.00 GAA!

We're gonna beat the hell out of you...

Keith K

Yeah, I agree that goalie standards should be different (although who knows if they are).  If skaters are given a single 20 second shift in order to get their names on the cup, I can imagine a situation where, in the final game with one team holding a comfortable lead late, the coach pulls a Mark Morris and swaps in the backup goalie for one stoppage.  He takes the ice after an icing call.  The offenive team wins the faceoff and throws a quick shot on net which is covered.  The backup heads off with a grand total of 1 second of icetime, but gets his name inscribed on the cup...

ugarte

So, does this answer the Elliott-on-the-cup question?  Click on the picture for a close-up.  

http://www.prosportsmemorabilia.com/itempages/newitem.asp?skuid=WMH-WW2002

(I don't think so either. I'm sure there are others, but Jiri Slegr, who played in Game 5, isn't in the picture.  And Manny Legace is.)


DeltaOne81

Well, I'm sure the requirement for goalies is different than other players. It's not like you can insist a goalie play 1/3rd of games or something, bc that would eliminate all but the most solid backups.

I hope the guy who played in game 5 is on it, even if he's not in the picture - otherwise would be ridiculous.

-Fred

ugarte

Greg - I meant to ask - do you have a URL for the Hilton kids?


GoBigRed


G. Whittenburg

No visit to Ithaca by Lord Stanley this year, but Jason does get the cup for a day...

http://theahl.com/AHLNews0207/01_ahl.html

GW

jtwcornell91

What, he's not taking it to Chapman, Australia? ;-)


gtsully

I think what happened in '94 was that the Rangers traded Gartner in mid-season, but he was the #1 players' union rep. in the league.  When the Rangers won The Cup, there were two players who didn't qualify to have their names on it under the league's rules (Greg Gilbert and someone else, I think).  The Rangers appealed to the league to let those two players get their names on The Cup, since they played a fairly important role on the team throughout the regular season.  Since Gartner had such a high-ranking position in the union, he went to bat for his former teammates, the appeal went through, and the two guys got their names on The Cup, even though they didn't play in the playoffs/finals (whatever the rule is).

I would definitely think that they would have different rules for backup goalies though.  Third-stringers, I don't know, but backups, definitely.  And didn't Thorne and Clement specifically say during Game 5 that Slegr would get his name on The Cup because he was playing in Game 5?


twh2

Who ever thought that a guy I was cutting carrots next to in HA 236 would be dancing with the Stanley Cup for a day.  Idiot, Elliott, Idiot, Elliott, LGR!!!
How can you keep everybody happy?  Keep winning. -Schafer