New Chant

[billhoward]

If it's a boring power play, you can do your own play-by-play: Pass ... pass ... shoot ... save ... [clear] go fetch! ... [retrieves puck] good boy ... skate ... pass ... pass ... boring ...

[oceanst41]

I like the sound of that, maybe it's because I'm partial to the remote control goalie.
I especially like the go fetch part.

But I agree, sometimes the penalty kill gets too quiet and a Let's Go Red never seems to last long enough.

[ugarte]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 If it's a boring power play, you can do your own play-by-play: Pass ... pass ... shoot ... save ...  go fetch! ...  good boy ... skate ... pass ... pass ... boring ...

[/q]I'm not so sure that I like this. A not insignificant number will end "pass... shoot...
Fuuuuuuuck"[/b].

I do like the "fetch" and "good boy" parts a lot.

[Rita]

[Q] billhoward Wrote:

If it's a boring power play, you can do your own play-by-play: Pass ... pass ... shoot ... save ... go fetch! ... good boy ... skate ... pass ... pass ... boring ...

I'm not so sure that I like this. A not insignificant number will end "pass... shoot...
Fuuuuuuuck".

I do like the "fetch" and "good boy" parts a lot.

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ILR '92, CIPA '94, Cranky Bastard '71
The artist formerly known as big red apple [/Q]  

don't they still have the "language police"? (they were quite prominent ~1997).   not that i cared one way or another, but the ones on the C-D aisle were good for tossing at least one fan per game. ::rolleyes::

[billhoward]

Stuff that was funny in 1999, or 1979 (Penn to MSU squeakballers: " ... you're gonna work for us some day") gets old pretty quickly. The movie Bring It On has the rich California high school, something like Mission Viejo, telling the inner city school, "That's all right ... you're gonna pump our gas some day" and now if we use that, we're derivative and insulting.

Showing up in a Harvard sweatshirt when you play, say, Minnesota-Duluth, explains the pecking order pretty nicely without saying a word. But there's an obligation - some variation of noblesse oblige? - for the Ivies to be articulate and witty, not just boorish. (Those to whom so much is given, so much is expected?)

When Cornell plays Harvard, "Sucks sucks" is pretty funny except it's an inside joke. When Cornell plays at Harvard, "This Is Our House" is always scathing because it's true since the Cantabs don't show for hockey. Maybe there's a sign we can hold up that expresses the Harvard Corp's appreciation to Cornell for being able to charge more for Cornell tickets. You could link that to the $25 billion endowment, but probably not on any sign small enough to be carried in the building.

Would "Oxford rejects" be tongue-enough-in-cheek for Harvard?

If we can deconstruct the opponent power play (skate, pass, shoot, blocked!, nope, fetch, good boy), that's one up on "Boring."

Just make sure whatever you chant is clear enough the team on the ice knows what you're saying. I mentioned in another thread that it has been a couple decades that I've seen the Princeton/Yale/Harvard/whatever Ivy marching bands do inside jokes that wouldn't be fathomable and wouldn't be funny even if you could hear what the announcer had to say. If the chant can be heard 5-by-5 over the webcast, then it's clear.

Funny - and clear - was when the Harvard band saluted famous alumni, mentioned Ted Kennedy, and played "How Deep Is Your Love." Taste is another matter altogether.

If it's true, that Dov Grumet-Hyphen flipped a puck to a cute kid at Lynah before the game and the kid yelled, "You still suck," that's funny. I'd buy the kid a beer.

Good luck shaping new chants to keep it fresh. Don't forget the day job or classes, as the case may be for each of us.

[billhoward]

Rita, I think my comments and someone else's got concatenated to make it appear all those thoughts are mine.

1) wittily obscene is always funny (to me) (when I'm alone)
2) ... except when I bring my early and pre-teen kids to the game. Who, because of the noise, don't hear "suck" as "suck."
3) ... and it probably does annoy older alumni (you define older as you wish) who still have sensibilities

At the at-Princeton game last year, or maybe it was the year before, we sat near the retired Princeton coach. The noise from the Cornell fans drove him out after about two periods. A couple of the crude references perhaps hastened his departure. Seems a shame that happened.

Down in Florida at the hockey classic, where a couple hundred, maybe a thousand or more, of the fans are locals who want to see what this college hockey thing is all about, some of them bristled when the Cornell fans yelled RED during the anthem. Doesn't bother me, but if you risked your life for the U.S. in a war that had some reason for being held, maybe you consider the anthem something people shouldn't mess with.

Too bad a rink isn't a series of five or six areas with cones of silence separating the seating areas, but all of them able to be heard on the rink.

[Ack]

I never know...to what extent can the players tell what we're saying?  "Let's Go Red" and "It's All Your Fault" come to mind.

[Beeeej]

I was sitting here all ready to describe my way-too-surreal, dadaist idea of counting down the two minutes second by second, but out of order... (don't ask, it's been a weird day).  But hell, I really, really like the "kill...kill...kill...kill" idea.  Let's give it a shot for Union/RPI, shall we?  :-}

Beeeej

[Liz '05]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
... but if you risked your life for the U.S. in a war [snip], maybe you consider the anthem something people shouldn't mess with.
[/q]

Doesn't bother me, or any of the Cornell ROTC people I know.  But maybe that's because we became Cornell fans at the same time as we joined the military.

I have more of a problem with people changing the words than emphasizing a particular word (meaning, Clarkson's okay, North Dakota isn't).

[billhoward]

If you're good, you filter it out. But some of it has to seep through. I think you hear the odd cheer, especially if one voice stands out. That's the beauty of one leather-lung calling out, "Hey, Miller, you're mother called. And she said ... [see how long you can hold the pause] you -- " Maybe the guy doesn't get his stick down square and he missed the faceoff, and maybe that's the one Cornell draws back to the point for a one-timer that beats the goalie. Probably not, but hope springs eternal. And there is that Dartmouth (?) goalie who skated out of the net to taunt the fans taunting him, and gave up an effectively-empty net goal.

Some outdoor stadiums, especially when the field is well below the stands, the noise isn't that bad. That would not be Lynah.

I don't know how you can exactly quantify a specific home team's home ice advantage. You can see that the home team wins, what 55% of the games. (Whatever the # is.) But when Cornell wins 75% of its home matches, how much is the team, how much is the fans? There's even that study out of the UK showing teams/athletes wearing red win 55% of the time in the Olympics. Except Cornell wears more red away than at home.

And then there are the woofing gods who may or may not affect the outcome. Many believe they have more impact on McKee getting/losing a shutout than David himself.

[Josh '99]

[Q]Ack Wrote:

 D-CAF[/q]

That commercial made me laugh a lot

[Josh '99]

The "kill" drone sounds kinda neat.  Bill's idea has some appeal but it'd never work in practicality.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I vote for "kill...kill...KILL" also.  Elegant in its simplicity.  And easy to teach to the masses.

On the other side of the special teams, I remember back when I were a lad, Hobart Lacrosse used to sing-song "gooooooaaaaal  tiiiiiimmme!" every time they had the man advantage.  A lot easier in lax 'cause of the shorter penalties, but we could try that, too.

[Scersk '97]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
I think you hear the odd cheer, especially if one voice stands out.[/q]

You'd be surprised.  The architecture of Lynah (quonset hut) focuses everything on the center of the ice.  I was out there with the Zamboni once and a reasonably loud, though not unnaturally loud, friend of mine yelled something that I remember hearing very distinctly, as if he were much closer.  And this was over the crowd murmur.

The goalies hear everything, which is why it's important to be clever and jarring rather than repetitive and predictable.

[JordanCS]

I think a combination of the two best suggestions.  Instead of a straight "kill kill kill kill kill kill,"  just a "kill Kill KILL" like Jeff suggests, with the meter of LGR.....then, on a clear, I like "Go Fetch" "Good Boy."  It's pretty insulting, and very clean at the same time.  

Oh, and FWIW, this Army Captain cheers RED at CU games.