[LAX] Cornell at Brown

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Brown on the man-up...9-6

Boulukos taking faceoffs and fairing well

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GLYNN...10-6

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NEE!! 11-6...3:14 left (plus 1minute man up)


11-6 FINAL

[jkahn]

Congratulations to the Big Red on the undefeated Ivy season.
Other finals:
Princeton 10 Dartmouth 8
UMass 14 Syracuse 13 (overtime)

[Josh '99]

[Q]jkahn Wrote:UMass 14 Syracuse 13 (overtime)[/q]Excellent, always nice to see another DI hockey school doing well.  :-)

[ugarte]

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]jkahn Wrote:UMass 14 Syracuse 13 (overtime)[/Q]
Excellent, always nice to see another DI hockey school doing well.[/q]But it hurts our quality wins.

[Trotsky]

How are we looking in seeding?

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]jkahn Wrote:UMass 14 Syracuse 13 (overtime)[/Q]
Excellent, always nice to see another DI hockey school doing well.[/Q]
But it hurts our quality wins.[/q]
And helps UMass vis-a-vis Cornell in the seedings.  

Presuming Duke wins the ACC tournament tomorrow, they and Hopkins look like cinches for #1 and #2.  That would make #7 and #8 very undesirable seedings.  With Maryland's win over UVa added to their high RPI, they are back in the mix for a high seeding.  

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

High in the polls, solid record, a couple of early losses that we could probably win now, weak strength of schedule.

Sound familiar?  ::rolleyes::

Expect a 5 or 6 seed unless we slip up with Hobart.

[ben03]

[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:
High in the polls, solid record, a couple of early losses that we could probably win now, weak strength of schedule.
Sound familiar? Expect a 5 or 6 seed unless we slip up with Hobart.[/q] Our #9 SOS is not -that- bad. if we lose to Hobart then we will surely drop into the #6-8 seeds but if we take care of business then we're solidly in the #3-5 range and definitely no lower than a #5. it should be noted every team that has the potential of jumping us has to play at least one more game against decent competition.
Duke v. Maryland, UMass v. Rutgers, Navy v. Army, G'town v. Rutgers & Penn St. In short ... take care of our own business and Go Duke, Army and Rutgers!!! :-)

As of 4.29.05
LaxPr.
Rank  Poll  Team                           PWR   SOS   W- L- T
   1    2   Duke                          99.90  11   14- 1- 0
   2    1   Johns Hopkins                 99.78   3   10- 0- 0
   3    3   Virginia                      98.99   5    9- 3- 0
   4    4   Cornell                       98.95   9    8- 2- 0
   5   10   Maryland                      97.64   2    7- 5- 0
   6        North Carolina*               97.28   1    5- 8- 0
   7        Notre Dame                    97.22  13    7- 4- 0
   8    8   Massachusetts                 97.12  22   10- 2- 0
   9    7   Syracuse                      96.74   4    7- 4- 0
  10    5   Navy                          96.27  25   10- 3- 0
  11    6   Georgetown                    96.18  16    8- 3- 0
  12   15   Denver                        95.92  26    8- 4- 0
  13   12   Towson                        95.48  10    9- 3- 0
  14   11   Dartmouth                     95.13  19    7- 3- 0
  15   20   Brown                         95.09  17    6- 4- 0
  16        Hofstra                       94.97   7    7- 7- 0
  17        Princeton*                    94.72   6    3- 7- 0
  18   19   Delaware                      94.54  32    9- 4- 0
  19        UMBC                          94.49  23    6- 7- 0
  20    9   Army                          94.45  20   11- 3- 0
  21   17   Stony Brook                   94.25  40    9- 4- 0
  22   13   Albany                        94.22  27    8- 4- 0
  23   14   Bucknell                      94.09  37    8- 5- 0
  24        Yale                          93.99  21    7- 4- 0
  25   18   Penn State                    93.28  18    8- 5- 0
  26        Loyola*                       93.19  14    4- 7- 0
  27        Villanova                     92.95  28    7- 7- 0
  28        Harvard                       92.76  12    5- 6- 0
  29        Ohio State                    92.48  24    5- 7- 0
  30   16   Fairfield                     92.31  36    9- 4- 0
*Ineligible for NCAA tournament selection 
source: http://www.laxpower.com/update05/binmen/rating01.php

[Josh '99]

If Hopkins gets anything other than the #1 seed (assuming they beat 4-7 Loyola on Saturday), the lacrosse selection process will officially be stupid.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:
Our #9 SOS is not -that- bad...[/q]
I don't think the committee uses the LaxPower computer rankings to determine SOS.  I suspect it's the Wobus RPI, using which ranked us #20 in SOS before the Princeton game.  Something tells me  playing Princeton (Wobus #28) and Brown (#24) didn't help our SOS much, and I don't think Hobart (#25) will help, either.

Here's the Wobus RPI (NOT the SOS rankings) as of April 30: http://www.vaporia.com/sports/collegelacrosserpi05.html

One key question is:  of the nine teams ahead of us in the Wobus RPI, how many will they move us past in the seedings?  Quality wins will be important here, and our best are Syracuse, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, and Brown.  UMass has Syracuse, Georgetown, and Hofstra.  Syracuse has Army, Albany, and Brown.  Army has Cornell, Hofstra, and Bucknell.  Georgetown has Syracuse, Navy, and Delaware.  Navy has Maryland, Army (perhaps twice after today), and UNC.

[peterg]

As of May 1, the Cornell's rating is 11 on Wobus RPI, so the last two games and other results did help quite a bit.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]peterg Wrote:

 As of May 1, the Cornell's rating is 11 on Wobus RPI, so the last two games and other results did help quite a bit.[/q]
I was writing about Cornell's strength of schedule, not RPI, as not being helped by playing Princeton and Brown.  I think you're confusing the two.

Cornell in fact dropped from 10th to 11th in RPI by beating Brown, while Towson moved up to 10th by losing to Hopkins.  But Cornell's strength of schedule is probably still in the 20+ range.  Ranking 11th in RPI and 20-something in SOS, and with best wins over Syracuse and Dartmouth--both of whom are fading--combine to put Cornell in a very precarious position in terms of getting a #6 or better seed.

[By the way, Ben, those LaxPower computer rankings use scores and score margins to determine rankings.  The Wobus RPI doesn't care if you beat Princeton 9-8 or 17-4.]

[peterg]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]peterg Wrote:

 As of May 1, the Cornell's rating is 11 on Wobus RPI, so the last two games and other results did help quite a bit.[/Q]
I was writing about Cornell's strength of schedule, not RPI, as not being helped by playing Princeton and Brown.  I think you're confusing the two.[/q]

Ah yes.  SOS and RPI. I hesitate to say it, but if only there was lacrosse PWR or KRACH....