[Off-topic] Lacrosse

[jy3]

ok i am gonna check later but anyone know when the SU-CU game is this year? and is it in my backyard or at cornell?
hope people make it to the game wherever it is!  ::help::

[CowbellGuy]

4/9 in Ithaca

[zg88]

LATEST POLL (USILA/STX Coaches Poll, 04/01):

   http://www.usila.org/polls.html#div1

   CORNELL #10  B-]

Congrats to the Big Red for cracking the Top 10!  (Up from #12 last week.)

They are now the top-ranked Ivy team, since Princeton has *gasp* fallen out of the Top 10!  (#8 --> #12)  (I wonder if that's happened before in the last 10 years!)

IVY POWER:  6 out of the 7 Ivy teams are ranked in the Top 20!!!

(#20 Brown edged into the rankings by scaring the crap out of #1 Syracuse last weekend (who are clinging to the top spot by a one-vote margin!).)

Let's keep it rolling at Hahvahd this week!!!  :-)

(The Orangemen are looming, but let's not overlook the Crimson!)

(GoBigRed '03:  Thanks for the info. on Egan.  That's too bad about him.  BTW, I wasn't overlooking the offensive contributions of our midfield, I was just focusing on the overall lack of production at attack.  But, hey, as long as the goals are coming from somewhere, right?  (By my count, there are 6 middies with at least 4 pts., but only 2 attackmen -- a frosh & a soph!))

PS -- Cornell's season-opening loss to Georgetown is looking better and better...  The Hoyas (a "hoya" is a freakin' plant, isn't it?!?!) are now #5 and, at 6-0, are one of only two remaining undefeated teams.

[GoBigRed \'03]

zg88:  my thoughts exactly re: offensive output.  and hey, even mcclay had a goal this season!

[jason]

Rich,

I Agree. I was so excited that I asked one of the Cornell player's dad's who was video taping the game to make me a copy, which he did (now, what I did with that copy is another story).

[zg88]

What amazes me about that stunner of an upset is that, in the previous year, the Big Red had suffered through a 1-10 campaign!  (setting a record for losses in a season.)  I guess Richie had one more trick up his sleeve!  :-)

(And now, a potential stunner of another kind:  It is quite conceivable that the once-again-defending-national-champion Princeton Tigers will miss the NCAA tournament this year!  Not sure if a defending champ has ever done that before...)

[jeh25]

zg88 wrote:

(And now, a potential stunner of another kind:  It is quite conceivable that the once-again-defending-national-champion Princeton Tigers will miss the NCAA tournament this year!  Not sure if a defending champ has ever done that before...)

Harvard Men's Hockey - 1990 :-)

Who beat 'em in the ECAC semis? You guessed it. Cornell

[jeh25]

zg88 wrote:

(#20 Brown edged into the rankings by scaring the crap out of #1 Syracuse last weekend (who are clinging to the top spot by a one-vote margin!).)

Brown @ Yale on Wednesday should be a good game given their respective performances vs. SU and PU last week.

(I still remember watching SU going up 2-0 17 seconds into the 1st period against Brown at the Carrier Dome in 88 or 89. I think the goals were Gait to Marachek and Gait to Lockwood. Wow that offense was good.)

zg88 wrote:

PS -- Cornell's season-opening loss to Georgetown is looking better and better...  The Hoyas (a "hoya" is a freakin' plant, isn't it?!?!) are now #5 and, at 6-0, are one of only two remaining undefeated teams.

Also, remember that G-town sent us home from the NCAA's in 2000.

[ugarte]

zg88 wrote:

PS -- Cornell's season-opening loss to Georgetown is looking better and better...  The Hoyas (a "hoya" is a freakin' plant, isn't it?!?!) are now #5 and, at 6-0, are one of only two remaining undefeated teams.

Well, it at least looks less embarrassing. Getting drilled never looks better, only less bad.

[Ben Doyle 03]

stress fracture. . .:-/

[CowbellGuy]

I don't think he was talking about hockey. It happens all the time in hockey. *cough* BC...

[Give My Regards]

(And now, a potential stunner of another kind: It is quite conceivable that the once-again-defending-national-champion Princeton Tigers will miss the NCAA tournament this year! Not sure if a defending champ has ever done that before...)

Just checked ovar at www.ncaachampionships.com, and only one NCAA men's lax champ has failed to make the tournament the following year.

... drum roll ...

Cornell, after winning the first-ever NCAA championship in 1971, was not in the tournament field in 1972.  There were only eight teams in the tourney back then, and no Ivy team made it that year.  Is there a story there, or were there just no auto-bids?

[jeh25]

Wasn't it a 4 team field, based on old boy network backroom deals?

[kingpin248]

Automatic qualification is relatively new in men's lacrosse - I believe it was only first instituted for the 2000 tournament.  This year, six conferences get automatic bids: America East, ECAC, Great Western Lacrosse League, Ivy League, MAAC, and Patriot League.

I wonder what the Swami will have to say about the craziness of this past weekend...

[Al DeFlorio]

No, John, there were eight teams and no autobids back then.  In 1971 the NCAA had fully regional "regionals," which generated the same controversy as this year's hockey regionals.  Cornell, Army, Brown, and a-team-I-can't-remember were in the north "regional" (I think the games were played on the campuses of one of the teams playing in each game, but I could be wrong.) and four of the "traditional" powers in the Baltimore area played somewhere down there, with the winners meeting at Hofstra on Long Island.  The eight teams were chosen in the proverbial "smoke-filled room" by a committee.

Cornell and Maryland emerged from the regionals, and everyone felt this was a great injustice as the lacrosse powers-that-were down south fully expected the southern team to win it easily, and that it really would have been an all-south finals if the teams had been mixed--just like some of the western jerks on USCHO have been whining with regards to this year's hockey tournament.  The championship game was broadcast on public television with a crew from the Baltimore area, and they were utterly unable to cope with Cornell's easy 12-6 win.

Don't recall what happened to the team in 1972.  Geographic regionalization of the seedings was dropped quickly--maybe even in 1972.  Cornell lost key All-Americas Al Rimmer (six goals in the championship game) and Bob Rule (goalie on that team and Cropper's backup in 1969-70) to graduation, and just may not have been strong enough to qualify in 1972.