Another New Recruit

[RichH]

[Q]Cornell commits to Kindret  [/Q]

That headline is a backwards way to say it...

Unless it's a Canadian way to communicate that he's been offered a "scholarship," or a way for the local paper to puff up the local kid.

[Trotsky]

"Quesnel is located 660 kilometers (422 miles) north of Vancouver on Highway 97."

It's in the "Central Interior" of British Columbia, which sounds very, very rural.  Ithaca's going to be an overwhelming metropolitan experience for the young man. ;-)

Good luck to him.

[ganderson]

Well written FAQ Hayes.  

[ben03]

the Red are losing 6 players: 2 D-men, 3 Fwds, and 1G ... and have 8 committed freshman (hopefully 9 with the addition of a goalie):2 D-men, 6 Fwds, 0 G.
some of these guys are definitely going defer a year. is it safe to say the 2-3 weakest forwards might get shipped to Clippers (possibly) for a season with coach Bestwick in the BCHL.

my order:

Tyler Mugford-LW 
Nanaimo (BCHL) 60-16-12-28-182 || 41-25-38-63-105 SMHL 1st Team All-Star
6'1 195 1-14-85

Ryan Kindret-LW 
Quesnel (BCHL) 58-18-21-39-104 || 42-23-26-49-64
6'1 200 4-11-85 

Evan Barlow-LC 
Salmon Arm (BCHL) || 56-22-29-51-129  2004 All-Rookie
5'9 170 11-8-85

Jared Seminoff-RD 
Nanaimo (BCHL) || 58-2-10-12-103 2003 All-Rookie Team
5'11 185 2-27-86
60-5-16-21-78 

Colin Greening-LW 
Upper Canada College
6'2 186 3-9-86

Mike Kennedy-LC 
St.Thomas (WOJHL) || 47-13-11-24-12
6'2 175 8-21-86
46-17-9-26-15

Matt Connors-RW
Apple Core (EJHL) || 70-78-51-129-80
6'1 185 11-15-86

Taylor Davenport-D
Drayton Valley (AJHL) || 45-3-5-8-64
5'10 175 4-15-85

From the numbers above, any guesses who those 2-3 (if any) might be? is there anyone who thinks all 8 will come next fall? thoughts ...?

[Trotsky]

If all 8 come, somebody is going to the blueline.  Hell, somebody might become a goalie.  ::help::

[pfibiger]

Ben,

I think your ordering is kinda off Mugford has put up fine but unimpressive numbers for two years with the clippers. I seem him as sort of a Vateressian type player, he's certainly got the PIMs to justify the enforcer role. I wouldn't put him near the top of this incoming list of recruits. Just forwards, I think the ranking would be Connors, Greening, Barlow, Kindret, Kennedy, Mugford.

Does age play into deferring a year at all? I think we're most likely to see Mike Kennedy defer for a year. Despite a mediocre year, Connors and to a lesser degree Greening are very highly regarded, and are the other '86 forwards on the list.

I think Craig was the one who brought it up in discussion in irc last week during the game, but maybe we're seeing so many forwards in next year because Schafer knows he's going to lose at least one forward in addition to the seniors. Since there doesn't seem to be an NHL at this point, I don't think we're going to lose Hynes (which was talked about after '03), but maybe McKeown or McLeod is planning on leaving the team? And hey, maybe Greg's right, someone will end up moving to the blueline.

[calgARI '07]

Looking at impact offensive players of college hockey that have come from the BCHL and EJHL in particular, they are far above point-a-game players at those levels.  I'm not sure how you did your rankings Ben, but Mugford is quite possibly the bottom of the list.  Him, Kindret, and Kennedy will all be 3rd/4th liners if they crack the lineup at all.  Kindret may be better than his numbers indicate because he plays on one of the lower teams in the league.  I don't expect Mugford to crack the lineup at first and I agree with PFibiger that he'll ultimately be a Varteressian-type with his PIM's and his enforcerish type reputation.  I think Kennedy could be an Iggulden-type.  He isn't coming out of a very good league and doesn't have great numbers although decent, but he does have good size and central scouting is relatively high on him especially for the league he is coming out of.  Barlow will be an offensive player on the top two lines.  He has put up very good numbers this year and I expect him to contend for a spot on the top two lines as early as next year.   Obviously his size is a detractor, but with guys like Vesce and Scott in major roles in recent years, I don't expect it to be much of a problem.  Greening is tough to tell.  He, like Kennedy, is also coming out of a so-so league, but he has good size and a good reputation offensively and thus has been rated pretty highly for the draft.  I also expect him to also compete for a spot on the top two lines as early as next year.  Connors has had a disappointing year but still has tremendous upside.  He has good size and good speed and sounds like he will fit in well with Cornell.  He may have a better shot at cracking the lineup next year because he is the only right winger of the six forwards.  However, of the players I know in the EJHL and play against him on a regular basis, they have all spoken negatively of him as if he is overrated considering the players he is playing with.  In my opinion, I think he would be best-served doing another year in the EJHL because he is still young and hasn't developed as quickly as perhaps some might have hoped.  Anyways, depth is a great thing and the coaching staff will definitely have that with the forwards next year.
Seminoff I think will definitely be a regular next year with Davenport and Glover probably battling it out for the sixth spot.  That is of course unless there is another blueliner on the way which I think there still may be.

[ben03]

i ordered them based on DOB and the likelihood they would/could defer. Mugford (already deferred once, that’s why he’s on top); Kindret (already has 2 seasons in the BCHL); and Davenport (is at the bottom b/c he’s old and he is having a poor season numbers wise) … are all ’85 and would all be coming in already 20 with Barlow turning 20 in November. thus the likelihood any would defer (again) is quite small. the others are listed lower based on age only. if it’s true that some of the current team aren’t returning then i could see more incoming forwards than we graduate. i agree and think depth is a great thing but shelving some talent (ie off to the Clippers) could be of greater help a year down the road than possibly having them ride the pine in Ithaca. just a thought.:-)

[calgARI '07]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 i ordered them based on DOB and the likelihood they would/could defer. Mugford (already deferred once, that’s why he’s on top); Kindret (already has 2 seasons in the BCHL); and Davenport (is at the bottom b/c he’s old and he is having a poor season numbers wise) … are all ’85 and would all be coming in already 20 with Barlow turning 20 in November. thus the likelihood any would defer (again) is quite small. the others are listed lower based upon age only. if it’s true that some of the current team aren’t returning then i could see more incoming forwards than we graduate. i agree and think depth is a great thing but shelving some talent (ie off to the Clippers) could be of greater help a year down the road than possibly having them ride the pine in Ithaca. just a thought.[/q]

alrighty!  i agree that one or two should go somewhere else and develop next year rather than the press box at Lynah.

[jeh25]

[Q]ganderson Wrote:

 Well written FAQ Hayes.  [/q]

Thank ya. I try...

[oceanst41]

just thinking out loud here, but could schafer be covering his behind in case some players leave early for what could become of the NHL, if they use replacement players that is?

i know it's a long way away, and i really hope that it doesn't come to that, but would college players be a likely source for replacement players

[The Rancor]

i doubt dan glover will fight for ice time next year. i think he has earned his way to a regular spot as a junior. he is one of the best fore- and back checkers on the team. he is huge and he is a draft pick, and beyond that, hes played that role of the replacement awesome dude off the bench where did that come from player for 2 years. next year, with the current seniors gone, he's right there third or second line.

[mjh89]

Glover plays defense. Defensemen don't tend to do much forechecking or backchecking, and they certainly don't play on lines.  As far as him being a draft pick, I don't think that has much to do with who plays how much and where

[The Rancor]

you forcheck in the offensive zone and  a defensive pairing is the same as a line. picky picky  ::rolleyes::

[ursusminor]

Research on Ice, a free newsletter, reports that Justin Milo of Sioux Falls (USHL) has committed to Cornell for 2006.

Previously he played at Shattuck St. Mary's and for the Detroit Honeybaked Midget AAA team. He is 5'6" tall and weighs 176 lb. He lives in Eden Falls, MN and was born on 2/23/1987.


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