Cornell-Clarkson post-game thread

[Chris 02]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 Lynah looked good. Of course, I think it always looks good to a Cornellian . You couldn't hear the crowd terrifically on tv, but that's how those microphones always work. Plenty of comments by the announcers on how loud and involved the crowd was, and that they were having trouble hearing themselves once (right at the beginning).

So you got the idea even if the mics didn't pick up the crowd noise great. You could tell the crowd was involved - its a shame the main cheer it picked up was the 'bend over' silliness, but 'safety school' was very audible too [/q]

I bet the CSTV folks kept the "audience mics" turned way down because they don't want to pick up the swearing from "Cya asshole" and "rough'em/fuck'em up" and have the FCC on their back.

[calgARI '07]

[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 Lynah looked good. Of course, I think it always looks good to a Cornellian . You couldn't hear the crowd terrifically on tv, but that's how those microphones always work. Plenty of comments by the announcers on how loud and involved the crowd was, and that they were having trouble hearing themselves once (right at the beginning).

So you got the idea even if the mics didn't pick up the crowd noise great. You could tell the crowd was involved - its a shame the main cheer it picked up was the 'bend over' silliness, but 'safety school' was very audible too [/Q]
I bet the CSTV folks kept the "audience mics" turned way down because they don't want to pick up the swearing from "Cya asshole" and "rough'em/fuck'em up" and have the FCC on their back.[/q]

Don't forget about the "bull shit" chant after the second successive Cornell penalty in the third period coming very shortly after the spear to Krantz.

[ugarte]

Stream of conciousness... Go!

One assist on the Moulson goal is silly. Two is ridiculous.

The slash on Krantz was bad but I don't see intent to injure. I see that sort of peek-a-boo chop all the time - mostly from goalies - and they rarely catch the player with the precision that Krantz got caught last night. The guy deserved 2 minutes in the box, not a hanging in the town square.

I thought O'Byrne looked better than a lot of you did. I've thought he was clumsy and awkward in the past but he is starting to look comfortable on his skates and with his level of responsibility.

LaTullippe was clearly the instigator at the end. The ref made the right call. He saw LaTullippe start it but he couldn't ignore when Bitz swung back at him. Faulker started the dustup with Cook also, intentionally sweeping him off of his skates. Cornell isn't a team of shrinking violets, but I think Clarkson was taking the cheap shots last night. (That said, the hitting from behind call against CK wasn't a great call. A little ticky-tack.)

McKee looked very solid. I'm still surprised that he didn't snag the first goal. I haven't gone back to TiVo and reviewed the goal in slo-mo, but it just looked like he saw the puck early enough and got the glove up. On replay it may look like someone swinging at a Randy Johnson fastball, but I didn't get a good look at how close he came. The second Clarkson goal was fantastic, but it shouldn't obscure the great save McKee made on the first shot. Starman was a little hard on Topher there, don't you think?

Overall, good but not great. Cornell crashes the net when there is a scrum, but they don't seem to set up in front very much. Even when they have control and can cycle the puck, they don't screen the goalie very much. I don't claim to be an expert, but it looked like there were a lot of times that a player in front would have created scoring chances.

[ugarte]

[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:
I bet the CSTV folks kept the "audience mics" turned way down because they don't want to pick up the swearing from "Cya asshole" and "rough'em/fuck'em up" and have the FCC on their back.[/q]
It didn't work. I heard them all. That technique was particularly ineffective when they cut to a crowd shot and showed an entire section say "asshole".

Also, the FCC doesn't regulate cable TV.

[Greg Berge]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:Overall, good but not great. Cornell crashes the net when there is a scrum, but they don't seem to set up in front very much. Even when they have control and can cycle the puck, they don't screen the goalie very much. I don't claim to be an expert, but it looked like there were a lot of times that a player in front would have created scoring chances.[/q]You need a Stephen Baby (or for us in the octagenarian class, Gary Cullen) for that, and this team doesn't appear to have that guy.  Or rather, they have two candidates, but they're both too good not to have cycling the puck and setting up the play: Moulson and Sawada.  The ideal player has great touch, is too big for a hostile takeover, but may not be the most deft skater.  Hey, I just described O'Byrne. ;-)  Anyway, that style may just not match this year's personnel.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]duffs4 Wrote: Anyone know why O'byrne got released after the first Clarkson goal instead of Sawada?  [/q]I believe it was because O'Byrne's penalty was the one that caused the man advantage. CLK was a man down when Sawada got called. That evened it up; when O'Byrne got called it gave GATE a PP.

[ugarte]

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 [Q2]ugarte Wrote:Overall, good but not great. Cornell crashes the net when there is a scrum, but they don't seem to set up in front very much. Even when they have control and can cycle the puck, they don't screen the goalie very much. I don't claim to be an expert, but it looked like there were a lot of times that a player in front would have created scoring chances.[/Q]
You need a Stephen Bâby (or for us in the octagenarian class, Gary Cullen) for that, and this team doesn't appear to have that guy.  Or rather, they have two candidates, but they're both too good not to have cycling the puck and setting up the play: Moulson and Sawada.  The ideal player has great touch, is too big for a hostile takeover, but may not be the most deft skater.  Hey, I just described O'Byrne.   Anyway, that style may just not match this year's personnel.[/q]
I thought Hynes was effective in that role early in his career. I suppose he has evolved past it as well.

[Al DeFlorio]

Probably the biggest goof in the CSTV broadcast was the graphic showing Clarkson with 9 ECACHL championships and Cornell with 7.  Dopes.  Adam, certainly, knows better.

They obviously brought Adam along because of his Cornell connection, but I didn't think they used him--or his Cornell experience--very effectively during the broadcast.

[pfibiger]

I had been hoping that Adam was going to be doing the play-by-play during the game, and was disappointed when we first saw him and realized he was going to be a sideline reporter with a minute and a half of screentime over the length of the game.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]pfibiger Wrote:

 I had been hoping that Adam was going to be doing the play-by-play during the game, and was disappointed when we first saw him and realized he was going to be a sideline reporter with a minute and a half of screentime over the length of the game.[/q]
I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to avoid Adam's natural bias in the booth. And I wouldn't entirely blame them. I'm sure Adam would do his best, but you'd have to figure some would show through. Being a roving reporter, he got to cheer as much as he wanted

[ugarte]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]pfibiger Wrote:

 I had been hoping that Adam was going to be doing the play-by-play during the game, and was disappointed when we first saw him and realized he was going to be a sideline reporter with a minute and a half of screentime over the length of the game.[/Q]
I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to avoid Adam's natural bias in the booth. And I wouldn't entirely blame them. I'm sure Adam would do his best, but you'd have to figure some would show through. Being a roving reporter, he got to cheer as much as he wanted [/q]It didn't show through much when he was calling games FOR Cornell, aside from ramping up the volume when Cornell scored.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]pfibiger Wrote:

 I had been hoping that Adam was going to be doing the play-by-play during the game, and was disappointed when we first saw him and realized he was going to be a sideline reporter with a minute and a half of screentime over the length of the game.[/Q]
I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to avoid Adam's natural bias in the booth. And I wouldn't entirely blame them. I'm sure Adam would do his best, but you'd have to figure some would show through. Being a roving reporter, he got to cheer as much as he wanted [/Q]
It didn't show through much when he was calling games FOR Cornell, aside from ramping up the volume when Cornell scored.[/q]
I have no doubt that Adam did his best to be objective, and that from our perspective he may've seemed so. But I also don't doubt that  his calls and opinions on plays, penalties, etc must have been at least somewhat seen through Carnellian colored glasses.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[Please forgive me if this information has already been posted, but...]

A video highlights package of the Clarkson-Cornell game is now up at CSTV's Web site. Go to collegesports.com, click on "VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS," and then find "Cornell Rolls at Home." Nice.

[CowbellGuy]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
The lighting at Lynah makes the uniforms appear not red but reddish black and for Clarkson greenish black. It's not as bad as with the Webcam games but it's also not as good and saturated and colorful as in a modern rink.[/q]
Yeah, those lights are ancient. What are they, 3, 4 years old? Hmm, don't suppose it could have anything to do with the cameras, could it?

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:
The lighting at Lynah makes the uniforms appear not red but reddish black and for Clarkson greenish black. It's not as bad as with the Webcam games but it's also not as good and saturated and colorful as in a modern rink.[/Q]
Yeah, those lights are ancient. What are they, 3, 4 years old? Hmm, don't suppose it could have anything to do with the cameras, could it?[/q]
While I'm sure it has something to do with that, Age, weren't you the one who pointed out to us how the lights rotate from blue to orange to blue to ..., and how that makes it hell to white balance your photos? I'm sure that makes it rough on the cameras too.