How good are the Patriots?

Started by Red Man, January 26, 2005, 12:18:11 PM

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Tub(a)

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

 Miami? huh?[/q]

Panthers, Marlins (not for long), Dolphins, Heat

Tito Short!

Pete Godenschwager

[Q]then merge DC and Baltimore[/Q]

DC has The Nationals now in baseball, so they can legitimately be added to the list.

Atlanta too

Erica

They could, but the area doesn't consider the Redskins to be a DC team. When the Nationals were added, they considered it the fifth professional team, after the Capitals, Wizards, Mystics and DC United, because the 'Skins play in Landover, MD. Weird, I know, but I guess they are talking about teams within the city limits.

jeh25

[Q]Erica Wrote:

 They could, but the area doesn't consider the Redskins to be a DC team. When the Nationals were added, they considered it the fifth professional team, after the Capitals, Wizards, Mystics and DC United, because the 'Skins play in Landover, MD. Weird, I know, but I guess they are talking about teams within the city limits.[/q]

cf  the Meadowlands...

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Work is no longer an excuse to live near an ECACHL team... :(

Red Man

 Another reason to like the Patriots over the Eagles: AFC teams were 44-20 against the NFC this season, a .688 winning percentage that ranks as the best in interconference play since 1979.
 
     The AFC's six playoff teams were 21-3 against NFC opponents this season. Teams from the NFC that made the playoffs were 11-13 against the AFC.
 
     The Patriots were 4-0 against the NFC; Philadelphia was 2-2 against the AFC.

ninian '72

They're not yet referred to as the Landover Redskins, and they have more fans in the Northern Virginia suburbs than the Orioles do.  I think they count. ::rolleyes::

ninian '72

Sorry, but you're way off the mark on Brady.  He's one of the coolest, best decision-makers in the game, and it's this quality that's gotten him where he is.  When John Wangler graduated at Michigan, they recruited Drew Henson - who was supposed to be the next John Elway - to start at quarterback.  Slight glitch, though, in that the previous season's backup - Brady - essentially beat out Henson for the job.  This was not the plan, but when Brady was in everything clicked, even though he didn't have Henson's athletic talents.  So as not to lose Henson, they platooned them that one year.  Even then, no one expected Brady to be anything other than a second-string NFL quarterback someplace.  We should have known better.

jeh25

[Q]Red Man Wrote:


 
     The Patriots were 4-0 against the NFC; Philadelphia was 2-2 against the AFC.
[/q]

Yes, and 1 of those 2 losses was to the Steelers in Week 9, who as you may remember, beat the Pats in Week 8.  The 2nd AFC loss was to Cincinnati in Week 17 with all of the Eagles starters sitting.

You're seriously reaching here. You can certainly find pointless stats that fit your biases, but that doesn't mean they have any meaning.

Frankly, I'm just looking forward to an exciting Super Bowl that's still worth watching in the 4th quarter.
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Work is no longer an excuse to live near an ECACHL team... :(

Nate 04

The more relavent stat is obviously the one i heard on the radio this morning.

Teams with mascots that are humans (ie. Patriots, Cowboys, Redskins, Packers, etc.) have an 18-8 record against teams with mascots that are animals (ie. Eagles, Dolphins, Colts, Bengals) in the Superbowl.  I mean that just tells you everything::rolleyes::

jtwcornell91

[Q]Nate 04 Wrote:
The more relavent stat is obviously the one i heard on the radio this morning.

Teams with mascots that are humans (ie. Patriots, Cowboys, Redskins, Packers, etc.) have an 18-8 record against teams with mascots that are animals (ie. Eagles, Dolphins, Colts, Bengals) in the Superbowl.  I mean that just tells you everything [/q]

Does a "Bill" count as a human or an animal?  There's an animal on the helmet, but Buffalo Bill was a person.  Likewise, is a Giant a really big person or an inhuman mythological monster?  Do supernatural beings count as animals?  ::nut::

Red Man

Teams from the NFC that made the playoffs were 11-13 against the AFC.

Yes you're right.....this is irrelevent.  Hello?

Nate 04

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

Does a "Bill" count as a human or an animal?  There's an animal on the helmet, but Buffalo Bill was a person.  Likewise, is a Giant a really big person or an inhuman mythological monster?  Do supernatural beings count as animals?[/q]

Comparing what I heard on the radio and what i see on nfl.com of past champions, the Bills are included in the animals and Giants are included in human/human-like (I didn't catch what they did call that category).  That's the reason I specified animal mascots - the Bills have a (Blue) Buffalo as their mascot.

The guys on the radio (mind you this is Boston Sports Radio 1510, not the best morning sports radio) had a hard time figuring out what the Packers were.  They kept going on about how they must be meat packers (and making the obligatory jokes that would go along with that), since "that area" is known for its meat.  Now, I may be naive, but isn't Wisconsin known for its cheese and wouldn't those funny shaped hats Packer fans wear be "Cheeseheads", thus wouldn't you sort of deduce that the Packers are called Packers because they are Cheese Packers?  

cornelldavy

Nobody's considering the fact that when the Eagles were in the Super Bowl 11 years ago, they had a two-touchdown lead at the half...of course, then Dan Marino returned to the game after being rescued by Ace Ventura, and I don't quite recall how that game turned out...but that has to count for something, right?

Nate 04

Everyone knows Dan Marino couldn't win a superbowl.  Of course neither have the eagles.  I say it must have ended in a tie.   That or the credits rolled first, since they didn't want to get the hopes of either of the teams' fans.

jeh25

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
 Do supernatural beings count as animals?[/q]

It's academic John.

Cornell will win the Orangebowl before the 'aints make it to the Superbowl...
:-P
Cornell '98 '00; Yale 01-03; UConn 03-07; Brown 07-09; Penn State faculty 09-
Work is no longer an excuse to live near an ECACHL team... :(