How good are the Patriots?

[RichH]

[Q]Red Man Wrote:

 You are obviously an Eagles fan therefore you have an agenda[/q]
As a neutral observer of this thread, there only seems to be one person here with some sort of agenda.

[Red Man]

Precisely

[jeh25]

[Q]Red Man Wrote:
The Eagles just do not have enough weapons.  They have a versatile back who is a poor man's Marshall Faulk and a solid QB who can throw and run.  But their receivers will get DESTROYED by the New England secondary and back down.  The Eagles defense is strong but if they stop Dillon then Brady will go over the top and kill them....and the Patriots receivers will not shy away from getting hit and they never ever drop balls.  The Patriots are strong in all aspects of the game....I just don't see a way the Eagles can beat them.
      [/q]

You're probably right about the Eagles WR corps, particularly with Pinkston's prediliction towards getting jammed at the line. Add in that TE Chad Lewis is out, and the Eagles passing game would seem to be in serious trouble. But then again, LJ Smith has been a good target as 2nd TE, Westbrook has over 700 yrs receiving and Greg Lewis, while being virtually unknown, is the fastest WR the Eagles have.

However, your statement that Brady will "go over the top and kill them" is just silly. The Eagles secondary has 3 Pro Bowlers.  If the Pats can dominate the Eagles anywhere, it will be on the ground. Smashing Dillion and Faulk up the middle could cause real problems for the Eagles linebackers.

[cornelldavy]

[Q]Red Man Wrote:

 You are obviously an Eagles fan therefore you have an agenda and I am sure that you will find way to convince yourself that the Eagles are a better team and a better franchise than the Patriots.  The reality is that they have 2 lombardi trophies in their case and most likely will have a third by the end of next weekend.  The Eagles simply cannot measure up to that.

You sound like a Red Sox fan circa 2003.[/q]


Your amazing powers of deduction are right; I am an Eagles fan. However, I never said that the Eagles were a better team or franchise than the Patriots. The Patriots are favored in the Super Bowl, as they should be. But to say things like, "To compare the Eagles to the Patriots on or off the field is blasphemy," "The Patriots are strong in all aspects of the game....I just don't see a way the Eagles can beat them," and "Is there any doubt that they will dismantle the Eagles?" just sounds ignorant. Of course the Eagles have a chance. The lowly Dolphins beat the Patriots this season; surely the best team in the NFC has a chance to beat them as well.

And if I really wanted to sound like a Red Sox fan circa 2003, I would be whining about Philly's 23-year championship drought in all four major sports (something I hadn't even mentioned) instead of making reasoned arguments as to why the Eagles will likely give the Patriots a game. In fact, I'd say you sound more like a Yankees fan than I sound like a Red Sox fan.

[Jacob 03]

I know you're just arguing with him in his style, Alex, but God knows you couldn't have let the post go without a jab at the Yankees fans- many of whom have sat idly by or supported your side of the "Red Man is irrational" argument.  

[cornelldavy]

To be fair, I dislike Red Sox fans and Yankees fans equally. Some are even tolerable in small doses.

[Robin]

In reference to Red Man's first inital post on this topic.....it's Foxboro not Foxborough. :-p  

Robin

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]Robin Wrote:

 In reference to Red Man's first inital post on this topic.....it's Foxboro not Foxborough. :-p  

Robin[/q]

http://www.foxboroughpolice.com/

[Andrew]

The Sixers won in 1983... not 23 years ago...

You ignorant Patriots fans must be the same people who gave McKee a standing O when he ended his season last year again Clarkson.  Cocky morans.  The Eagles will win because 1. Andy Reid has NEVER lost after a bye week and with Jimi Johnson, will devise a game plan that will force Brady out of the closet, I mean pocket.  2.  Brian Westbrook and the rest of the offense is so versatile that absolute Genius/God Billicheck can't devise a specific game plan to shut off the offense as he did with Peyton Manning.  The Eagles can run it up the gut, complete 20 yard screen passes and burn you with Greg Lewis. Mcnabb can run... 3. T.O. is not actually a distraction at all.  4.  Philadelphia is going nuts and the players have nothing to loose, they got over the hump.  5. McNabb is underrated, Brady is not.  7.  New England fans are frauds.  8. The Pats are only favored by so much because there is a change in the betting makeup during the SuperBowl and regular people want to bet on a consistant team.  Las Vegas knows that people will blindly pick the Patriots so they created a rediculous line, starting at 6(not 14).  9. Don't you remember what happened to the Best Show on Turf...?

[Robin]

"The old spelling of the town is Foxborough. The modern spelling is Foxboro."

perhaps we are both correct.
I'm usually a stickler for spelling.  Sorry to call you out incorrectly.

Robin

[cornelldavy]

[Q]Andrew Wrote:

 The Sixers won in 1983... not 23 years ago...

[/q]

I knew that, I think I just put 23 because I had the "3" from '83 in mind. Whether it's 21 or 23 years ago, it's still a long time.

[A-19]

philadelphia is the city with the 4 major sports franchises that has waited the longest since its last national championship.

[Greg Berge]

How many cities (or SSMAs) even have teams in all 4 majors?

NYC (twice over)
Chi
LA
Det
Philly
Den
Phx
Dal
Twin Cities
Miami

Others?  I must have missed one.

[Jacob 03]

[Q] Greg Berge Wrote:
How many cities even have teams in all 4 majors?
...LA...
[/Q]
Not anymore, unless you're counting San Diego for football, in which case you'd have to count San Jose hockey for SanFran/Oakland, and then merge DC and Baltimore, and then things might start getting ridiculous I guess....

Boston comes to mind as one you missed

[jeh25]

Miami? huh?

EDIT: I *guess* the Panthers count. But they play in Ft Lauderdale, not Miami.