The actual GAME against Harvard

[twh2]

I've really got nothing new to add to this except to put in my own two cents.  I have not seen Cornell play so passive in a game this year.  Harvard fought and won most of the loose pucks and I haven't seen opposing players get so much room along the boards in our defensive zone either.  Sure, Moore looked fancy weaving all over the place, but I didn't see him get checked hard once.  Harvard has great talent on their forward lines, but they only skate three of them, I don't think they're any more talented that we are considering our depth at all positions, I think they just wanted it more, plain and simple.  Here's to success in Worcester (having gone to high school in Worcester I never EVER thought I'd be saying that about Cornell hockey, or anything else for that matter).

[ugarte]

Chalk it up to my ignorance and accept my apology.  As far as I am concerned "server crashed" = "power outage" = "underpants gnomes stole my connection cable for profit (stage 3)."

[CowbellGuy]

Sorry, it's just that I pride myself on my servers' stability and if the server crashes, it's potentially my fault. If the power goes out, it's Cornell's and I can't really do anything about that. I suppose possibility 3 would be my fault, too, if I don't set the underpants gnome traps right.

[trackmike]

I saw it too.  First he threw a little piece of plastic or something up into the crowd, then as he was skating away, proceeded to flip us off behind his helmet.  ::rolleyes::  I'm planning on tormenting Welch next year when Hahvahd (sucks) comes to Lynah.  :-D

Mike

Let's Go Red!

[Sarli]

I know someone (2 ppl) already said he gave us the figner and he did. And he prob thinks he's cool.   But that's the kind of thing that gets pro athletes in trouble so if he has any brains he won't be doing it often. then again look where he goes to school.

I would have to say (and i'm still hoarse:`( ) that I was screaming for US to hit someone all game and only Hornby listened:-D .

The reffing was god awful, but he let everything go, so it's Cornell's fault that they didn't take advantage of that.  If he's letting stuff go isn't that to our advantage as we like to be more physical.

I also agree with whoever posted about hu draping themselves all over the backs of our forwards on rushes.

I must say that the I thought just about everyone played off their best, except the checking line. And that I beleive that was the best hu has played all season. So in an attempt of positive thinking: their best for 5 periods is better than our averageness for 5 periods.

That said I feel bad for Undy...I've never seen him display any emotion on the ice before he accosted the net with his stick at the end.  

NCAA = redemption. i hope hu does well for ECAC credibility, but not too well
;-) :-D

[Greg Berge]

Nice of you to call me out, Age, but it would be nicer still if you got your facts right.  What I *was* doing was quivering in fear on every Dom Moore-on shot and wondering why people couldn't just shut the ef up about the reffing and watch a championship game.  On the positive side, at least I know you aren't focused on me during the games, which is probably better for both of us.

Reffing is *always* subjective, and the ref does have to make judgment calls.  What planet do you come from where everybody always agrees instantly what's a penalty and what isn't?  The need for judgment implies the need for a referee -- hence the clever name.

Fans have seizures every freaking time their team loses -- it's mind-numbingly predictable. Say it with me, now.  We were outplayed, not screwed.

To sum up: losing sucks as 24 of our opponents have discovered thus far and no doubt they've all ascribed it to bad officiating, stop blubbering, and let's go Red.

[DeltaOne81]

Before this turns into a fight, I just want to say I don't think anyone is disagreeing here.

We *were* outplayed - we were not screwed by the ref. I don't think a single person has disagreed with that.

That doesn't mean the reffing still didn't suck though. I think everyone's on the same page on that too.

[twh2]

Right on Delta.  But no matter how hard we all try, we all can't just get along as the ELF polls showed;-)

[Greg Berge]

Age and I don't fight.  He just acts like a dick and I call him on it.  ;-)

That was a joke, in case the smiley face doesn't come across.  Age and I are friends and also tied for a *distant* second on the arrogance scale among current road Faithful, so we are allowed our little pissing contests (though personally I prefer them offline, as I'm sure you all do).

[Keith K]

Actually I don't think we're all on the same page regarding the officiating.  From my perspective Hansen did a reasonable job over all.  Yes, there were a couple of calls/non-calls that I didn't like.  But that always happens.  Pretty much I think he did a good job.  I know I didn't make very comments about the officiating for most of the game so he must've been OK from my perspective.

[ugarte]

I don't travel, so who finishes in first?

[melissa]

yeah, greg. i am curious too. who wins the pissing contest? ::yark::

[Greg Berge]

To paraphrase Road House, "nobody wins a pissing contest."

[DeltaOne81]

My vote: the guy who was sitting in the Cornell student section this weekend, row G. At first, it seemed like he had a reasonable excuse - he had little kids who wouldn't be able to see...

That is until you realize (which I noticed) that his kids did nothing but read and color and sleep all game. He was also one of those "this is my rightful seat" people, as some Clarkson fans were described before. All we asked him to do Friday was slide over 4 seats so some more of us could stand. He put up a real fight, but then did.

Saturday he was nicer, moving down a row, so we could stand together and paint our chests (yes, I was one of them ), but he had a really harsh attitude at first ("I paid for this seat and I don't have to move!" - dude, it's just down one row!).

That being said, I have no idea who Greg was referring to , just had to bitch at least once about that guy.

Back to the original topic:

Hansen did a reasonable job overall, except for the third period. Hahvahd (sucks) players were hanging all over us, a stick hit Paolini up high, crosschecked majorly at least once, and no call. You could say he was just being a hands off ref (which I would argue is very bad in a title game, but reasonable I guess).

So it was a "typically poor" refing job... that is until the Murray call. When after letting 10 worse things go, he calls something which was virtually incidental contact, with a minute left in the championship game. Just ridiculous (it reminded me of the first BU game's penalty call with 2 minutes to go in the third, thankfully with a different result).

Luckily he returned to his sad but even "hands off" format after that (he did nothing about a HU player slugging a down on the ice Cornell player on the back of the head 5 minutes into the first OT - which he was not 5 feet from).

I'm rambling, but what I'm saying is if it weren't for the Murray call it would have only been a poor reffing style. With it, it was a very bad period, which just shouldn't happen in that important of a game.

-Fred, DeltaOne81 '03

[cbuckser]

So long as the referee keeps control of the game (which Hansen did on Saturday night), I do not believe that calling the game by the book and creating a parade to the penalty box is preferable to a hands-off approach to officiating the game.