Yanks acquire Big Unit; sucks to be a Sox fan right now

Started by faithful07, December 16, 2004, 09:40:59 PM

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faithful07

Yanks pull off the big one...Red Sox are looking like a one-year wonder a la D'Backs, Angels, and Marlins.

atb9

Talk about your OT thread without the "OT:"...  

I'm a Yanks fan but the Red Sox won.  One-year wonder?  I don't think the Red Sox fans would like that moniker but it's better than no-year wonder.

Honestly, you sound like a bitter Red Sox fan...  :-D
24 is the devil

RichH

[Q]faithful07 Wrote:

 Yanks pull off the big one...Red Sox are looking like a one-year wonder a la D'Backs, Angels, and Marlins.[/q]

First, this isn't a baseball news board.

2nd, yeah, it sure does suck to be a Sox fan now.  I'm sure they all hated winning that world series, and still drenched in champagne and beer.  Plus getting to hold it over Yankee fans heads for the next year and beyond.  And now they have to buy all the books, magazines, shirts, hats, DVDs...  Yeah, it must suck to be a Sox fan.  ::rolleyes::

3rd, christ...you're burying a very well put-together team because of this??  They aren't a one-year wonder (yet).   And even if they are, Sox fans don't care.  They got their championship.  Plus, as they proved this year, they don't have to win the division to have another shot...they (and any other team, including the Yankees) just need to be good enough to win the "best loser" Wild Card, and have the right numbers come up in the ALCS.

4th, the Marlins are a 2-year wonder.

5th, I'm a die-hard Yankee fan, and I'm sorta sad about giving up a Vazquez in his late-20's for a 41-year old.  I'm impressed that they did this (if it's true) without having to give up any of the bullpen.  Talk of signing a player that old to a contract extension is pretty remarkable, but then again, he won't even be the oldest pitcher in this rivalry.


atb9

24 is the devil

Rosey

[Q]RichH Wrote:

5th, I'm a die-hard Yankee fan, and I'm sorta sad about giving up a Vazquez in his late-20's for a 41-year old.[/q]

I had the misfortune of seeing Vasquez pitch at a losing game at Camden Yards, and he was just awful.  I have not been impressed by him in any game I've watched.  If he were early-20's and inconsistent, I'd be inclined to keep him around and wait for him to gain experience; but he's late-20's and consistently bad.  Buh-bye.

That said, I'm pretty much dead-set against ever signing anyone over 40, including pitchers as solid as Johnson, because biology dictates that their time is nearly over.  Still, given the choice between the two, I'd take Johnson any day.  Besides, isn't this the last year of Johnson's contract?  One year is a reasonable gamble.

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Kyle
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peterg

Apparently the deal requires a two year extension for Johnson to approve it, so it's a 3 year gamble.  I suspect that money doesn't matter in the least, though.

Greg Berge

I'm dead set against signing anybody over 37, not only because of biology, but because of opportunity cost -- for the (outrageous) money a Johnson costs you, you could be bringing in a couple of younger guys to develop within the organization, who won't then just drop off the shelf.  And with a Johnson, the payscale is always chasing his best years, while with a younger guy, it's just the opposite.

Hudson is a thousand times better a pick-up than Johnson.

nyc94

In a related story, the Yankees announced ticket price increases yesterday.

From AP:

The New York Yankees are raising ticket prices for most of their top seats by $10 next season, with the best box seats going for $90.  New York's best regular seats, which include waiter service, are available only as part of season ticket plans.

The price of the top ticket usually available on a per-game basis will rise to $60, from $55. Upper deck reserved seats increase from $15 to $17, and bleacher seats rise from $8 to $10.

Rosey

[Q]nyc94 Wrote:

The price of the top ticket usually available on a per-game basis will rise to $60, from $55. Upper deck reserved seats increase from $15 to $17, and bleacher seats rise from $8 to $10.[/q]

Still lots cheaper than the Boston Cornhole.  Amazing how supply-and-demand works.

Kyle
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Greg Berge

Was thinking the same thing: that's pretty cheap. (and since you only go to a ballgame for atmosphere, who would waste their money on a $60 box seat?)

Of course, our local Carolina League affiliate sells tickets for $1, and the players actually care.

BCrespi

As a season ticket holder and as big a Yankee fan I know, I'll start by saying, I'm not happy.  One, I don't want my upper deck tickets costing me over $40 a game, which is rediculous considering we got them only three years ago at $30.  Two, I don't want a 41 year-old, no matter how good he is.  He's not as consistent as he used to be.  Three, does everybody forget the Vazquez was an allstar last year?  The kid had a great first half and melted down in the second half.  I think a 28 year old with as much potential as he showed in Montreal and over the first half is not worth giving up on b/c of one half season.  Fourth, while I'm not worried about giving up Dioner Navarro, Eric Duncan is going to be a star and should be the Yankees 1B of the future.  He was their first round pick two drafts ago and has tremendous power potential.  People seem to forget about what won the Yankees their 4 World Series titles: Jeter, Posada, Bernie, Pettitte, Mariano.  The home-grown core.  Yankee fans who like this deal can't have watched baseball for the past four seasons.
Brian Crespi '06

Nate 04

First: Nothing's a done deal and looks like Green doesn't even want to go. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1947995)

Second:  Red Sox are far from a one year wonder, they've still got a good team.  Their core (sans Pedro - not a big loss) is still together and they added Renteria...I think that's an upgrade at the shortstop position.  Plus, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees fail again.  There's something to be said about teams that actually play together and compliment each other than a bunch of superstars that just wear the same uniform (look at the Red Sox this year, the Pistons).  A team that acts more like a college team in terms of how they relate to each other - as friends, is much more likely to succeed, in my opinion.

Killer

Not sure what you mean about "right now".  Doesn't it always suck to be a Sox fan?

Still, I do enjoy living in Bost-One-and-Done (or at least reasonably close).  Go Pats!

Pete Godenschwager

[Q]First, this isn't a baseball news board. [/Q]
Might as well be today ::rolleyes::

Red man

Definitely sucks to be a sox fan right now.  That makes sense.....