contacting athletics

[ticketman]

Hello,
Does anyone know how to contact athletics or to whom I would send information regarding illegally scalping Cornell hockey tickets. The seats are known -> person can be found.
Thank you for your assistance.

[Beeeej]

Gene Nighman can be reached at gmn5@cornell.edu or 607-254-2327.

Beeeej

[Drew042]

The person's name can easily be gleened from several posts in the ticket exchange in case you want to supply that to Gene as well.

[upperdeck]

cool, but whats the illegal part? wanting more than 10% or something else..

[billhoward]

Hey, leave the scalpers alone. I'm coming up for a couple games and need somebody outside the gate selling tickets. My finding has been that most of the "scalpers" are asking around face value and want to unload the tickets. In which case it's not scalping. OK, some kids who have comp standing room tickets sell them for $5 or $10.

It's an interesting question of whether scalping should be illegal. The reason a ticket goes for more than face value is supply and demand.

Maybe Cornell should make special tickets available for Harvard for $100 a seat and see if there are takers. Like say the ones that come back unsold from Boston.

[Will]

I don't have a problem with people selling their tickets for around face value.  What I do have a problem with is when people specifically use their tickets to make a huge profit.  In my opinion, that's contrary to the spirit of being one of the Lynah Faithful.

[DeltaOne81]

There was someone trying to sell two Harvard tickets in D for $220 . Yes, you heard me right. That's the kind of thing that the poster was likely referring to/

[nyc94]

From what people have posted, there are no tickets coming back from Harvard.  They opened up sales to non-Harvard affiliates on Monday.

[Beeeej]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
 Hey, leave the scalpers alone. I'm coming up for a couple games and need somebody outside the gate selling tickets. My finding has been that most of the "scalpers" are asking around face value and want to unload the tickets. In which case it's not scalping. OK, some kids who have comp standing room tickets sell them for $5 or $10.[/q]

As you said, that's not scalping.  So why leave the scalpers alone?

[q]It's an interesting question of whether scalping should be illegal. The reason a ticket goes for more than face value is supply and demand. [/q]

Obviously I'm not inside the legislators' heads, but I suspect they believe that when scalpers buy as many tickets as they possibly can because they know they'll be able to sell them for a huge profit, they're artificially deflating supply and inflating demand.  That's not a shining moment for capitalism.  If buying the ticket required you to attend the event, maybe it'd be reasonable to let the market dictate the price.

And as much as you may want whether scalping should be illegal to be the question, it isn't the question.  Scalping is illegal.

[q]Maybe Cornell should make special tickets available for Harvard for $100 a seat and see if there are takers. Like say the ones that come back unsold from Boston. [/q]

If there were skyboxes or something, sure, charge more for the Hahvahd game.  But I can't imagine how Cornell would justify charging $100 for the same seats for which other people have paid $12 or $14, other than "we can," which would lose them a lot of goodwill capital.

Beeeej

[billhoward]

If you're willing to get there an hour before gametime even for Harvard and if you don't mind standing, I bet someone's going to have tickets for near face value. If it's $20 for a $10 ticket, okay that's a 100% markup. But if you drive in from say New York City that's $90 in car costs (wear and tear, insurance, gasoline), $100 for the hotel room, $50 for dinner, maybe you go out for beers afteward, $25 for breakfast, then it's like $305 vs. $285 for the weekend if you're a adult who doesn't crash on somebody's floor.

I'd be curious to know firsthand reports of the pricing of the tickets outside, near gametime. I alas am going to be south of the Mason-Dixon line so I won't be able to find out firsthand.

If you're a student and barely scraping by, then $200 for a Harvard ticket kind of sucks. That of course is asking price.

[Killer]

Yes, they did.  And it appears that they sold pretty quickly once it was known.

BTW, just after I bought mine, a friend of mine cancelled, so they became extras.  I agreed to sell them to someone I'm meeting just beofre the game.  Our agreed upon price is $29 for the pair.  That's face value plus the $3 handling fee I was charged by Harvard.  Seemed fair to me.

[paulspen]

[q]$90 in car costs
$100 for the hotel room
$50 for dinner, maybe you go out for beers afteward
$25 for breakfast,
then it's like $305 vs. $285 for the weekend if you're a adult who doesn't crash on somebody's floor.[/q]

The smell of raw fish at Lynah...

Priceless

[Beeeej]

I think I've found a much better solution... in return for my buying their tickets (which I managed to do at face value, despite all the yutzes looking for a windfall) for this weekend, Mom & Dad will drive Jess & me up there and probably buy most of our meals - plus we're staying at my brother's place.  And they'll probably even insist on reimbursing me for their tickets.  Score!:-)

Of course, that plan probably wouldn't work for most of you.  At least not with my Mom & Dad.

Beeeej

[Willy '06]

Last time I checked, there is no value printed on the season tickets. So how does that affect the idea of scalping. Plus, shouldn't one be compensated for the time they invested to get the tickets? That seems only fair. That's the economist in me.

[Beeeej]

[Q]Willy '06 Wrote:
 Last time I checked, there is no value printed on the season tickets. So how does that affect the idea of scalping. Plus, shouldn't one be compensated for the time they invested to get the tickets? That seems only fair. That's the economist in me.[/q]
Both lovely theories, but you'd still lose in any court in the real world.

The statute allows you to include things like handling or "convenience" fees when calculating the "face value," but that's it.  Even if a judge agreed with your time-value-of-money theory (which no judge would), how would you properly document the time you "invested" for which you think you deserve to get "compensated"?  And shouldn't, then, the time someone spends seeking out the ticket they eventually bought from you count towards the purchase price?

And good luck finding a judge who agrees that dividing {Cost of Season Ticket} by {Number of Games} doesn't equal face value just because Cornell didn't print a dollar figure on the tickets.

Beeeej