Sun interview with Noel

[Tom Lento]

[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 [Q2]Tom Lento Wrote:
Maybe I should buy a TV and stop taking it out on all of you people.[/Q]
Maybe this is all a ploy to get us all to chip in and get you one until hockey starts again. Is that it? That's it, isn't it.[/q]

Is it working?  ::nut::

[Facetimer]

[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 Let's summarize:

- Andy jumped the railing at the wrestling championships when Travis Lee won without proper credentials.
- Andy thinks athletes should get free parking on campus.
- The thing Andy is "most happy" with during his tenure is the new logo.

What's a guy gotta do to get fired around here?[/q]


You know Cowbell Guy, joking or not, you may not want to get on this guys bad side.  Seeing how you don't have proper credentials to purchase seats in the student section.

[Owen Bochner]

Obviously I am a bit biased, but I find all of this Sun and Andy Noel bashing completely out of line and pointless.

First, Per Ostman is one of the best writers on the Sun staff. In ANY section. His interview with Andy Noel was the tenth "10 questions" article he has written this semester. All of them have been with "lower profile" athletes, with the exception of his first interview, which was with Cody Toppert. None of these interviews have been particularly serious, and none of them have intended to be. They have all been funny and great reads.

Second, please keep in mind that Cornell has 35 varsity sports besides men's hockey. It is The Sun's responsibility to report on all of them. We already give a disproportionate amount of attention to men's hockey for obvious reasons. The last two weeks of school is not the time to be fixating on Lynah Rink renovations, particularly when one of Cornell's spring teams has already won an Ivy League championship and three more have the potential to do so in the next two weeks.

Third, you guys are greatly underestimating the work that Andy Noel does. I have never seen a more interested, involved, or enthusiastic administrator. He regularly attends games of every team on campus, which very very few people can claim. I recall talking with him between intermissions of a hockey game earlier this season. He was in the process of running between the hockey game in Lynah, the basketball game next door, and the wrestling match over in Friedman. He told me how much he regretted having to split his time because he wanted to see all of all three games.

Finally, Andy Noel is very good about granting interviews to The Sun and talking with Sun reporters. I have personally had five or six serious interviews with him this semester. I think a lot of the reason why Andy agreed to do a "flippant" interview with Per was because of the good relationship we have with him.


Owen Bochner
Sports Editor
The Cornell Daily Sun

[CowbellGuy]

Well, then, maybe he should spend less time at events and more time doing his job.

*ducks*

[KeithK]

Yes, the Sun bashing on this thread is kind of pointless, but... (there always has to be a but :-) ).  I don't read the Sun much and as a result had no idea that this was one of a series of less than serious interviews.  Add that to a general disapproval of the AD and my initial reaction was to be annoyed.  Overreaction?  Sure.

If you don't think the last two weeks of school are a time to be fixating on Lynah Rink and the hockey team then you won't begin to understand some of us around here :-D .  But seriously, plans for renovations to one of the major sports facilities on campus should be very much worthy of attention, even if it isn't hockey season.  That is if there's a real story here - maybe any plans are in the very early discussion/wish list stage.

I'll join Age in ducking here.  Going to lots of games and being enthusiastic doesn't make someone a good AD.  His policies and adminstration of athletics are much more important.

[Facetimer]

[Q]Owen Bochner Wrote:

 Obviously I am a bit biased, but I find all of this Sun and Andy Noel bashing completely out of line and pointless.

First, Per Ostman is one of the best writers on the Sun staff. In ANY section. His interview with Andy Noel was the tenth "10 questions" article he has written this semester. All of them have been with "lower profile" athletes, with the exception of his first interview, which was with Cody Toppert. None of these interviews have been particularly serious, and none of them have intended to be. They have all been funny and great reads.

Second, please keep in mind that Cornell has 35 varsity sports besides men's hockey. It is The Sun's responsibility to report on all of them. We already give a disproportionate amount of attention to men's hockey for obvious reasons. The last two weeks of school is not the time to be fixating on Lynah Rink renovations, particularly when one of Cornell's spring teams has already won an Ivy League championship and three more have the potential to do so in the next two weeks.

Third, you guys are greatly underestimating the work that Andy Noel does. I have never seen a more interested, involved, or enthusiastic administrator. He regularly attends games of every team on campus, which very very few people can claim. I recall talking with him between intermissions of a hockey game earlier this season. He was in the process of running between the hockey game in Lynah, the basketball game next door, and the wrestling match over in Friedman. He told me how much he regretted having to split his time because he wanted to see all of all three games.

Finally, Andy Noel is very good about granting interviews to The Sun and talking with Sun reporters. I have personally had five or six serious interviews with him this semester. I think a lot of the reason why Andy agreed to do a "flippant" interview with Per was because of the good relationship we have with him.


Owen Bochner
Sports Editor
The Cornell Daily Sun[/q]

Come on, Owen, give me a break -- your newspaper sucks, just face it.  If Noel's such an interesting man and does so much work, why don't you interview him about that.  Ostman's article was the worst attempt at journalism I have ever read.  Defending him makes you look like a boob.

Further, when are you going to give women the opportunity to make quality contributions to the sports page?  I have a friend who was given the worst assignments nobody wants and presumably nobody reads just because she was female.  The sad thing is, she probably knows more about sports than the entire Sun staff.

[Pete Godenschwager]

[Q]He regularly attends games of every team on campus, which very very few people can claim[/Q]

Wow, that guy is dedicated, we should make him the AD!!  Oh...wait...::rolleyes::

[CUlater 89]

Part of Andy's job is to attend games/matches of all varsity sports, so I wouldn't exactly consider his attendance to be so extraordinary.

Anybody who followed the football coach hiring process, as I know you did, can't possibly believe he handled that well.  That was his most important hire to date and he brought disgrace on the school and the program by letting himself get played by Trestman and Gilbride.  Who knows how many recruits we lost because he allowed the process to drag out.

[Pete Godenschwager]

[Q]Part of Andy's job is to attend games/matches of all varsity sports, so I wouldn't exactly consider his attendance to be so extraordinary.[/Q]

if my comment wasn't dripping with sarcasm, it was supposed to be ;-)

[jtwcornell91]

Is it just my imagination, or did Facetimer just agree with Cowbell Guy? :-O

[cornelldavy]

Okay, I'll take the bait.

[Q]Facetimer Wrote:

Ostman's article was the worst attempt at journalism I have ever read.[/q]

You don't read much, do you?


[Q]Further, when are you going to give women the opportunity to make quality contributions to the sports page?  I have a friend who was given the worst assignments nobody wants and presumably nobody reads just because she was female.  The sad thing is, she probably knows more about sports than the entire Sun staff.[/q]

Amanda Angel was the Sports Editor a year ago, and she ran, in my opinion, the best Sports section in the four years I was at Cornell. It's absurd to say that women don't have the opportunity to make quality contributions to the sports page when the main contributor is a woman.

Your friend was probably given the worst assignments because she was new to the staff. Nobody comes in and writes about hockey or football right away. When I began writing at The Sun, I was stuck on indoor track. Better assignments come with seniority.

I can't believe I'm even responding to the charge that your friend was given low-profile assignments because she was female. That's completely ridiculous.

[billhoward]

[Q]Pete Godenschwager Wrote:

 [Q2]Part of Andy's job is to attend games/matches of all varsity sports, so I wouldn't exactly consider his attendance to be so extraordinary.[/Q]
if my comment wasn't dripping with sarcasm, it was supposed to be  [/q]

You're safe. It came through five-by-five.

[CUlater 89]

Indeed.  I should have made it clearer that I was responding to Owen's post, not yours Pete.

[ugarte]

I can't believe that we are approaching 50 posts on a throwaway article - an amusing trifle that - with the addition of this thread - has revealed two things:

1) Andy Noel has goofy/charming/awkward-dork side (as opposed to the distillation of pure evil that this forum assumes he is) and

2) the athletes and the Sun - two constituencies that have far more regular contact with Noel than the posters - like and respect the guy.

I don't pretend to know how to run an athletic department.  I don't pretend to know how negotiations with two high-profile candidates like Trestman and Gilbride could have gone "better" (I prefer the final hire anyway).  I just wish that you all would stop busting the balls of the AD because he won't return your phone calls or accede to your demands because he has different priorities.

That said, the ticket line is still a fucking fiasco.  Do you think we could do something about that, Andy?

[CUlater 89]

In an effort to get to 50 posts:

Members of the CFA are far closer to the football hiring process than any of us, or the athletes.  And several have told me how the NFL guys played us, just as the CFA members advised Andy would happen, but he chose to ignore (or take) the risk.