Goaltending Recruit

[jon \'05]

Amen to that displaced cornellian, a regular barry melrose on our hands

[canucksfan]

[Q]DisplacedCornellian Wrote:

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 At no point did I ever say that Knoepfli should not dress next season.  I argued that he underachieved offensively this season and that there are going to be regulars from this year sitting out next year with 2 more forwards coming in than are leaving.  That is until he really stepped up in the playoffs and thus solidified himself as a leader and someone that can fulfill his offensive potential.  Thanks for taking what I said out of context though.[/Q]


Maybe I didn't get the exact quote right, but I don't think I took what you said out of context.  So I dug up the quote.

"Wouldn't be surprised if Knoepfli and McCutcheon both got bounced from the lineup next year with more forward coming in than leaving."
[/Q]

This quote from Ari isn't saying that he believes Knoepfli SHOULD be dropped, but that he believes that he WILL be. There is a difference. Although I disagree with that particular statement, the quote you "dug up" backs up Ari's statement.

[mgl11]

blah, blah, blah

somebody wake me when we actually sign a new goalie

[The Rancor]

thank you for your support!:-D
however.... although i remember reading here that Schafer said such things abot Chabot, i dont recall ever reading it in any interview, radio transcript or game reports. if he has said Louis wouldnt play, I'd love to see some proof. Untill then, if he dresses, hes good enough to play. he wouldnt be here if he wasn't, and Schafer has a reputation for keeping players that are in fact good enough in suits, although they are mostly forwards.
anyway there was much speculation as late as the winter break that McKee would surender the starting spot in favor of Marr, but he suprised everyone (well maby not Big Mike) and stayed put. you gotta go with the hot goalie.

also i'm hoping my tone, and critisizim,  isnt too harsh, i'm not trying to flame you Ari... engaged discussion and all, you know.:-}

[CowbellGuy]

Just because he dresses doesn't mean Schafer would ever want him playing. You can dress as many goalies as you want and he's obviously a useful asset in practice, so in the event of injuries or game DQ's it's always a good idea to have extra goalies dressed for games, but the fact that he wasn't even brought on most trips this year seems like a good indicator.

[Josh '99]

I was under the impression that teams are only allowed to bring two goalies on the road, no?

[RichS]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Cornell's defensive scheme was hands down the best in the NCAA so they could make it as far as they did on shaky goaltending, IMO.  Cornell broke down for ten minutes after the disallowed goal and LeNeveu did not come up with big saves when he needed to.  In my eyes, that is the bottom line. [/Q]

No team, no mater how good their scheme makes it "far" in the playoffs on "shaky goaltending".   Yes, LeNeveu allowed a couple of bad goals last year but I would not call him "shaky".  If he was shaky, how did they get as far as they did all season....and don't tell me it was ALL about the scheme.

[CowbellGuy]

Vermont, Brown, Mercyhurst. tOSU, BGSU, WMich all brought three goalies to Lynah this year. I think what you are actually limited in is the number of players overall you can travel with. So I guess picking McLeod over Chabot would be the reasoning, though that might also prove my point about Chabot's chances of playing.

[calgARI '07]

Let me just ask this: if LeNeveu was as amazing last year as his numbers indicated (best ever GAA), why didn't he win the Hobey?  
How many genuine scoring chances did opponents have on Cornell all season?  
Last year's TEAM was unbelievable and this was exploited playing in the ECAC.  Some people hang their success on LeNeveu's numbers.  I just don't see it that way.  His GAA attributed more to the team, IMO.  The majority of the people who voted for the Hobey agreed with this assessment as evidenced by LeNeveu not winning.
LeNeveu was and is a good goalie, but was not the superhuman last year that some people are insinuating.  
I'm sure people will disagree and that's fine, but that is how I saw it at the time and how I see it now.

[RichH]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Let me just ask this: if LeNeveu was as amazing last year as his numbers indicated (best ever GAA), why didn't he win the Hobey?  [/Q]
Simple answer: it was judged by the voters that Peter Senja of Colorado College was a more deserving of the award.  Both had amazing seasons.

But, you neglect to mention that by being named as a "Hobey Hat Trick" finalist (I still dislike that there are "finalists" chosen from the pool of 10 Finalists) LeNeveu was either #2 or #3 in the voting.  Which is pretty impressive.  The local Buffalo media had all but assumed that LeNeveu would win because of the records set.

Some may argue that there were other factors involved, such as the previous 3 winners all being defensive players, or East-West voting biases, player vs. system (as you argue) etc.  I happen to think that Senja was deserving.  I also believe that if you put LeNeveu's 2002-2003 numbers in this season's pool of candidates, he may have had a better chance of winning.

[Q]How many genuine scoring chances did opponents have on Cornell all season?  [/Q]
Well, "genuine scoring chances" is a subjective thing.  Since you're class of '07, ARI, I'm not sure how much of his play you actually saw, but while the defense was fantastic last year, it was by no means flawless.  While a portion of GAA can be attributed to the play of the team, the .940 save percentage (including playoff action) says something.

My opinion, the team was great, and the goaltending was a great part of that team.

[calgARI '07]

I'm from Ithaca and I've been going to games my whole life.  I was at just about every game after January 1 last year.

[RichH]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 I'm from Ithaca and I've been going to games my whole life.  I was at just about every game after January 1 last year. [/Q]

And that's why I didn't assume anything.

[calgARI '07]

Good thing because as we all know when you assume you make an ass of u and me.  :-D

[Josh '99]

Ahh.  I knew it was something along those lines.  From a cursory glance at box scores, Schafer did travel with three goalies (Underhill, Burt, Gartman) for all of 00-01, so it's certainly not something he's unwilling to do.  My bad.

[RedAR]

[Q]Let me just ask this: if LeNeveu was as amazing last year as his numbers indicated (best ever GAA), why didn't he win the Hobey?
How many genuine scoring chances did opponents have on Cornell all season?
[/Q]

Going by this logic, then David McKee, who put up similar numbers to LeNeveu's on a team that was not as amazing last years, is in fact a superhuman goalie.

I think McKee is a very good goalie, but if I had to choose between LeNeveu and McKee, I'd choose LeNeveu in a heart-beat.  IMO, if LeNeveu played for us this season, at least a few of the ties or 1 goal losses we had would have been a win.  Again, this is not an indictment of McKee, but testament to the solid positioning and talent LeNeveu had.