Quick Question

[Dart~Ben]

Did you guys get penalized for throwing fish on the ice at the Harvard game?

They're trying to end the tennis ball tradition here at Dartmouth, claiming that we'll get a penalty without even getting a warning after the first toss. Which is somewhat dubious considering we did it earlier in the year at the in women's game against Princeton and didn't get called for anything.

I also don't know if it's the ECAC cracking down or the Dartmouth administration, frankly I wouldn't be shocked if it was both.

[Greg Berge]

There was no penalty, but there was a greater than average amount of hand-wringing, with reference to the ECAC as Dean Wormer having a zero tolerance policy on objects thrown on the ice.

[atb9]

agreed.  No penalties but a significant amount of people thrown out this year.

[Jeff Hopkins \'82]

It comes and goes.  A lot of it has to do with who's in the Commissioner's office.

When I was in school they went as far as threating to move the game to Albany if it didn't stop.  Other times they penalized us, but that was also when we did it as Sucks came out for the 3rd period.  My freshman year, not only did we get that penalty, but when Tredway got a hat trick later in the third, they penalized us for throwing hats on the ice.

JH

[CowbellGuy]

If Colgate was any indication, I wouldn't be too concerned. I think the order of events was:
Cornell player introductions.
Flurry of Big Red gum.
Warning over PA.
Cornell goal.
More gum thrown.
More warnings.
Colgate goal.
More gum.
Desperate pleas from the PA guy.
Second Colgate goal.
More gum, enormous phallus thrown.
Delay of game called.

The moral of that story is, if you do it once and stop, I'd be very surprised if anything was called. Of course, it's Princeton. They could probably play a man up for the whole game and still lose.

[Pete]

Was it a phallus or a big dog bone?  It would be cooler if it was in fact a phallus, if only because the linesman had to pick it up and skate around with it.

[Josh '99]

Pete Godenschwager wrote:

Was it a phallus or a big dog bone?  It would be cooler if it was in fact a phallus, if only because the linesman had to pick it up and skate around with it.

[Facetimer]
I think Age knows an enormous phallus when he sees one.
[/Facetimer]

Age, I'm sorry, it was just...  RIGHT THERE.

[Robb \'94]

Cornell has definitely had a penalty called for fish thrown "during" the game (meaning after a goal or other stoppage - anything thrown during actual play should CERTAINLY be called a penalty!!!).  I don't ever recall hearing about a penalty being called at Lynah for throwing fish before the game (when the players first skate out on the ice).  PA warnings and fan ejections, yes, but penalty, no.  Of course, the times when we've gotten a penalty during the game were AFTER the PA warnings, so we don't really have any information about what would happen at Lynah if a) nobody threw anything before the game (right...), so there was no warning read, and then b) someone threw something after a goal.  My guess is that they'd go ahead and give Cornell a penalty based on reputation alone, but maybe I'm just paranoid...

[Give My Regards]

Rule 6-30 in the NCAA Ice Hockey Rules and Regulations deals with "interference by spectators".  Game officials used to be required to have a warning announced about delay-of-game calls, but that appears to be no longer the case:

Interference by Spectators 
SECTION 30. a. In the event that objects that interfere with the progress of the game are thrown onto the ice, the official shall blow the whistle and stop the play; and the puck shall be faced off at the spot where play is stopped. 
Fans are not permitted to throw objects on the ice. At the discretion of the referee, a warning may be issued before the game.
b. Spectators are not permitted to use artificial noisemakers, air horns or electronic amplifiers while the game is in progress.
c. The band(s) shall not be allowed to play while the game is in progress.
PENALTIES—a. through c.—Warning or bench minor against offending fans' team for delay of game. 
It is the referee's discretion, depending on the severity of the action, whether or not a warning is necessary. 
Note: Conferences or the proper disciplinary authority are encouraged to develop policies in this area if necessary.

I believe there have been a few mumblings from the ECAC office about object-throwing, but I haven't heard of a league-wide crackdown.

[CowbellGuy]

But fortunately for UVM and Clarkson, electronic amplifiers are apparently allowed by the bands. ::rolleyes::

What kind of freakin' pep band needs electricity? Yeah, the Clarkson with the bell, brain-scrambling whistle, electric guitar and bass, and half its fans with some sort of stupid noise-maker that told me I couldn't do the cowbell cheer because noisemakers aren't allowed. I hate that place.

[Will]

Age, I was just thinking that (about the electronic amplifiers and other stuff bands do).  Isn't the UVM band using their many stupid cowbells to do the "Go Cats Go" cheer technically against NCAA rules, then?

[Josh '99]

Somebody please make a rule that Thunderstix are against NCAA rules.  PLEASE.   ::help::

[Cornell Fan]

Pete Godenschwager wrote:

Was it a phallus or a big dog bone?

I was there and had a pretty clear view of the thing, and I believe it was a large gourd, perhaps an attempt to poke fun at our Ag School.

[Will]

Cornell Fan wrote:

Pete Godenschwager wrote:

Was it a phallus or a big dog bone?

I was there and had a pretty clear view of the thing, and I believe it was a large gourd, perhaps an attempt to poke fun at our Ag School.

I was there too, and it looked fairly dildo-like to me.  Then again, what do I know about gourds? ;-)

[Chris \'03]

[Q]Isn't the UVM band using their many stupid cowbells to do the "Go Cats Go" cheer technically against NCAA rules, then?[/Q]

Any artificial noise during the game is a penalty... technically. That includes cowbells at UVM, drums at Colgate, and whatever other stupid stuff people use aroung the league and country.

I was however very amused a couple years ago when RPI gave out one thunder stick to fans for freakout. They were in compliance with the rule because one thunder stick is not a noise maker. Of course they sold individual sticks as well...

I suppose they are going with the same idea (ie masked compliance with the rules) at brown where there is just a pile of the damned things at the entrance packaged individually.