[OT] Ivy Hoops

[Chris \'03]

Penn doing Cornell a favor tonight.
They DOMINATED Princeton in Princeton. The final was 67-52.


Princeton now comes to Cornell at 4-1, having lost tonight and needing two overtimes to beat Harvard on Saturday.

Things are a little tighter now:

Cornell 5-1
Princeton 4-1
Brown 4-2
Penn 3-2
Yale 3-3
Columbia 2-4
H & D 1-5

[Jeff Hopkins \'82]

So who do we want to play in the NCAA's - Duke, Stanford or St. Joe's?  ;-)

JH

[Greg Berge]

How is the title determined on a tie?  Least recent team to win (i.e., the Rose Bowl rule?)

[jtwcornell91]

Greg Berge '85 wrote:

How is the title determined on a tie?  Least recent team to win (i.e., the Rose Bowl rule?)

Playoff.  At least that's what they did when Yale, Princeton, and Penn tied in 2002.  (So it may just be if head-to-head doesn't resolve anything.)

[Jacob 03]

I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the "title" was shared, and that the playoff only determined which team received the automatic berth to the NCAA's....

[Chris \'03]

[q] I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the "title" was shared, and that the playoff only determined which team received the automatic berth to the NCAA's.... [/q]

I'm pretty sure that's in. Yale and the Ps are all considered Ivy Champs for 2002, just as Dartmouth, Princeton, and Cornell were Ivy lax champs last spring.

[Robb \'94]

Heh - so it's really the 65/66 team play-in game... ::yark::

[Chris \'03]

Believe it or not, our RPI would probably be good enough not to be in the play-in if we were to win the league.

[ugarte]

Chris '03 wrote:

Believe it or not, our RPI would probably be good enough not to be in the play-in if we were to win the league.

In last week's Bracketology on ESPN.com we were a 16 (vs. St. Joe), but not in the PIG.  This week Princeton (who was 4-0 at the time) is a 15 seed.

Important weekend coming up. LET'S GO RED!!!



Post Edited (02-11-04 11:11)

[cornelldavy]

The loss to Yale hurt our RPI enough that we currently rank 65th out of the teams that would make the tournament if things ended the way they are. To be honest, I'd rather see Cornell in the play-in game, because then they get an extra game, and even better than that, they have a shot in hell at winning a postseason game.

[ugarte]

Alex F. '03 wrote:

The loss to Yale hurt our RPI enough that we currently rank 65th out of the teams that would make the tournament if things ended the way they are. To be honest, I'd rather see Cornell in the play-in game, because then they get an extra game, and even better than that, they have a shot in hell at winning a postseason game.

And it will be on in prime time, unopposed.  (I think the PIG is set for Raleigh, NC - I'd only go in person if it were in Buffalo.)  

Still, I'd rather the Ivy League not return to being seen as the weakest conference in the country again.

[Chris \'03]

I have no data to back this up, but my guess would be that the Ivy champ would almost be guaranteed to avoid the PIG, if only because the Ivies don't have a tournament.

The team that represents the Ivies will have to have a better than 64th RPI, because there will be an upset in a mid-major conference tournament where an otherwise crummy team will find its way into the tournament.

Ultimately it has nothing to do with whether the conference is the weakest when the conference doesn't have a tournament and the bid will in most cases go to a team with at most 3 losses.

Some anamoly where there is a 4+ team tie atop the Ivies and they has a "tournament" then the Ivy rep may end up in the PIG. The only other PIG possibility may be a team that went winless out of conference and barely won the Ivies.

That's my theory anyway.

[cornelldavy]

check out the 11pm SportsCenter tonight...as of now, the Cornell-Princeton basketball game is scheduled to lead the show. Guess we have the lack of NBA and top 25 games to thank for that.

[Chris \'03]

7 to go in the 1st:

Cornell 17-13

[atb9]

keep those updates coming!  thanks!  :-D