Athletics: Throw Toys Instead of Fish

[Josh '99]

http://cornellbigred.ocsn.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/120303aaa.html

I'm not sure how I feel about this...  On the one hand, it's certainly a good cause.  But on the other, it's such a good tradition.

[A-19]

why don't they compromise and give the families and children of ithaca the actual fish :-)

[Keith K \'93]

This is really a dumb solution.  Nothing against toy drives - it certainly a good cause.  But people will get fish into the rink and the fish will be thrown.  So if people do throw toys as well then we'll end up with a bunch of nasty, fish guts coated toys.  Not a pleasant thought.

[Chris 02]

Anyone with a USCHO login ought to post this and see what the rest of the college hockey message board community thinks...  

Personally (and this is my opinion, so feel free to agree or disagree), I think this is a great idea.  The fish can be pretty nasty and are a waste of good fish.  I think it'd be pretty funny to some giant stuffed fish toys thrown on the ice.

Anyone for The Little Mermaid?

[Greg Berge]

If they want to start a tradition, then they should do the toy drive on the *other* night.

Using needy kids to try to kill off the fish tradition is either dumb or cynical.

[Josh '99]

Greg Berge '85 wrote:
Using needy kids to try to kill off the fish tradition is either dumb or cynical.

Eh...  I'd give them enough credit to call it "attempting to kill two birds with one stone."  That said, it won't work.

[Bahnstorm]

This is a fine idea, but not on a night that fills the rink with the smell of the alleys of Boston. I bet stuffed toys will be tossed right in the garbage bags with the fish guts. You can make a case for throwing teddy "bears" any night. Why not make the Vermont game "stuffed animal" night?

[Josh '99]

Evan '02 wrote:
Why not make the Vermont game "stuffed animal" night?

Because it's already "inflatable sheep" night?  :-}



Post Edited (12-03-03 19:31)

[Bahnstorm]

Hence the "stuffed animal" comment. ;-)

[RedAR]

I thought it was elephant.

[Pete]

I especially love the part where they threaten to remove the Gary Glitter song from the pep band's repertoire.  I feel like I'm in middle school ::rolleyes::

Toys for Tots is a wonderful program, but they should just put big collection bins at the entrances (you could bring some cooler toys besides a dumb stuffed fish then :-) )



Post Edited (12-03-03 20:13)

[ugarte]

[q]Pete Godenschwager wrote:

I especially love the part where they threaten to remove the Gary Glitter song from the pep band's repertoire.  I feel like I'm in middle school ::rolleyes:: [/Q]  
If you want to behave like children...

I don't want to rehash the pro/anti profanity argument; I think we know where everyone stands on it.  But the school has made its position perfectly clear.  I don't blame the band for playing Gary Glitter - enough people (and probably all of what I expect is a risk-averse band) say "Rough 'em up" that they can play the song in good faith.  However, if the crowd won't stop shouting "Fuck" when the band plays GG, playing GG is the obvious casualty.

As for getting rid of the fish, that is a terrible idea. :-( Has the administration completely lost its soul?  Actually, I don't think so: [Q]Cornell is on notice that if the game is delayed because of fish on the ice or if other disruptive, unsportsmanlike conduct from the fans occurs   (particularly the throwing of objects at players or officials), the Big Red will be penalized. [/Q]
I think we get the warning every year, but we only get penalized if there is a second wave - or even a second splash - of fish.  And throwing something at the players or officials SHOULD lead to a penalty and an ejection.  I suspect enforcement (by the redcoats and the zebras) will be the same this year as every other year.

The logic of the toy substitution isn't consistent anyway.  Is there a reason why Cornell wouldn't get a penalty if there was a delay from picking up 100 stuffed Nemos from the ice?

Bring a fish and a toy.  Keep the fish and the toys in separate pockets, and pass the toys over to the zamboni entrance if they don't give you a place to leave them near the main entrance.



Post Edited (12-03-03 20:40)

[Keith K \'93]

[Q]Is there a reason why Cornell wouldn't get a penalty if there was a delay from picking up 100 stuffed Nemos from the ice?[/Q]Yes, because Mazz won't whine as much if we're throwing toys on the ice instead of fish heads at his players.

[Ack]

He doesn't like to get fish innards stuck in his mustache (he's got something to hide).

[Shorts]

[Q]there a reason why Cornell wouldn't get a penalty if there was a delay from picking up 100 stuffed Nemos from the ice?[/Q]
On the page, Althetics requested that the toys be thrown prior to the announcement of the starting lineups (their italics and underlining).  I think the idea is for the whole throwing and picking up to be done and over with before the players come on the ice, therefore not causing a delay.  Personally, I agree with the opinions expressed above that it might be better off for everyone if donated toys were politely put in a bin, rather than being thrown.