Selection Show

[Mr. Niss]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

They have never cared about that.

[stereax]

Revealing the bracket:

"and Cornell... expect a lot of Denver fans!"

They did mention we're very good defensively. And Walsh and Castagna!

"Cornell is back in it..."

"The hell do you mean back in it? We were in it last year!!!" - Andy

That's what he means. We are back. As in we were here last year and now we are back.

That's what we explained to him lol, but the way they said it made it sound like we missed last year.

[abmarks]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

Countercounterpoint: get a top 8 seed, not bottom 8.

Alternatively, be the top seed out of your conference.

[BearLover]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

Countercounterpoint: get a top 8 seed, not bottom 8.

Alternatively, be the top seed out of your conference.

Neither of these things fix the problem people are complaining about. See Providence in 2015 and 2019. They hosted as the lower seed. Where you finish in your conference is particularly immaterial to this issue.

[CU2007]

It's pretty clear someone needs to get off their @ss and make sure there's a regional in Syracuse/rochester/elmira/ anywhere close with a decent rink and some hotels.

[BearLover]

It's pretty clear someone needs to get off their @ss and make sure there's a regional in Syracuse/rochester/elmira/ anywhere close with a decent rink and some hotels.

I mean there's one in Albany this year and they didn't put us there

[Jim Hyla]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

I agree, but thems the "rules". I could never understand the intraconference concern, especially if it does what this does. Maybe it makes sense if teams just met in the league playoffs, but that's not a problem here. We haven't played Dartmouth since 1/23, almost 2 months ago.

Years ago we used to complain about this a lot, playing Minny in Minny or Wisc in Wisc. Now it's DU in Colorado.

But if the coaches won't complain, expect it's here forever.

[Jim Hyla]

It's pretty clear someone needs to get off their @ss and make sure there's a regional in Syracuse/rochester/elmira/ anywhere close with a decent rink and some hotels.

The only way this makes a difference is if we host it.

[marty]

It's pretty clear someone needs to get off their @ss and make sure there's a regional in Syracuse/rochester/elmira/ anywhere close with a decent rink and some hotels.

I mean there's one in Albany this year and they didn't put us there

I think he meant Cornell should figure out a way to host.

[Jim Hyla]

It's pretty clear someone needs to get off their @ss and make sure there's a regional in Syracuse/rochester/elmira/ anywhere close with a decent rink and some hotels.

I mean there's one in Albany this year and they didn't put us there

I think he meant Cornell should figure out a way to host.

Beat you by 14 sec Marty.

[Mr. Niss]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

I agree, but thems the "rules". I could never understand the intraconference concern, especially if it does what this does. Maybe it makes sense if teams just met in the league playoffs, but that's not a problem here. We haven't played Dartmouth since 1/23, almost 2 months ago.

Years ago we used to complain about this a lot, playing Minny in Minny or Wisc in Wisc. Now it's DU in Colorado.

But if the coaches won't complain, expect it's here forever.

My man, my sophomore year ('85-'86), we played Denver in Denver, despite winning the ECAC at the Gahden.  Two games total goals.  We were the only road team to "win" one of the games, losing by one goal overall.  My ass has been chapped ever since.

[abmarks]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

Countercounterpoint: get a top 8 seed, not bottom 8.

Alternatively, be the top seed out of your conference.

Neither of these things fix the problem people are complaining about. See Providence in 2015 and 2019. They hosted as the lower seed. Where you finish in your conference is particularly immaterial to this issue.

It actually is material this year.  Something has to give with avoiding a Dartmouth Q or Dartmouth Cu first round game.  While there are other factors like geography, the top seed of the three is going to get more consideration than the lower two.  If we were the 6 and Dartmouth was the 11, Dartmouth would be the one going to Denver and we'd be the one playing in Worcester.


Being the top seed coming out of your conference out of 3 doesn't guarantee there's no other factor that gets you, but it certainly should reduce the possibility.

[andyw2100]

Revealing the bracket:

"and Cornell... expect a lot of Denver fans!"

They did mention we're very good defensively. And Walsh and Castagna!

"Cornell is back in it..."

"The hell do you mean back in it? We were in it last year!!!" - Andy

That's what he means. We are back. As in we were here last year and now we are back.

Yeah. That's what my wife said. I had taken it differently, but that's probably what he meant.

[andyw2100]

Why are we so against intra conference matchups but we can play BU and Denver in the NCAA tourney every year?

I don't even mind if they want to avoid intraconference games if possible, but when the alternative is having the lower seed play a better team on the better team's turf, the prejudice to the lower seed seems to far outweigh whatever the harm of an intraconference matchup is.

[Counterpoint: don't lose to Princeton.]

I agree, but thems the "rules". I could never understand the intraconference concern, especially if it does what this does. Maybe it makes sense if teams just met in the league playoffs, but that's not a problem here. We haven't played Dartmouth since 1/23, almost 2 months ago.

Years ago we used to complain about this a lot, playing Minny in Minny or Wisc in Wisc. Now it's DU in Colorado.

But if the coaches won't complain, expect it's here forever.

My man, my sophomore year ('85-'86), we played Denver in Denver, despite winning the ECAC at the Gahden.  Two games total goals.  We were the only road team to "win" one of the games, losing by one goal overall.  My ass has been chapped ever since.

Was talking about that series to Stereax in the car. My senior year. We were on Spring Break and I was skiing in Vermont. I remember finding a newspaper to get the results both mornings.