Campaign To Stop Recorded Music At Lynah

Started by andyw2100, March 16, 2026, 02:32:29 PM

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marty

Quote from: billhoward on March 17, 2026, 03:39:50 PMY'all are the people who wouldn't believe a 10-second video clip online could be seen as "too long."

Times change. Most people get used to the piped-in music as long as recorded-music playback does not step over the music the pep band plays.

First worry about:
  • Why the rink lighting is dim and has varied hot spots and dim spots. And is hard to get color fidelity for those shooting stills. I believe the A.D. is aware of at least the lighting concerns.
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  • Why the arena audio is hard to discern. The man at the mic has a golden voice; it's not him.
Y'all have heard me mention before how the camera angles are suboptimal for the video broadcasts and I believe we can improve them. At least versus 5 years ago our video guys are tracking the puck.

Casey mentioned that he is advocating for improvements in both the lighting and camera issues - though his first priority is better refrigeration.

As to the audio, wait until you visit the gambling mecca of Schenectady.  Union's architects have designed a space with too narrow seating, poor lines of sight and an unintelligible audio system.  Many will find this refreshing as the homer announcer at Achilles was insufferable.  He was missing at the Cornell game and the noise from his milquetoast replacement couldn't be deciphered. (It did make me nostalgic for the late '70's CTA El announcements.)
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Weder

Quote from: billhoward on March 17, 2026, 03:49:17 PM[Drifting:] From time to time medical doctors get uppity when academics want to be addressed as Doctor ("Dachtah" if from Long Island) and have to be reminded that the academic honorific came before the medical one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCXJ3yC65o
3/8/96

Trotsky

#17
No true PhD ever insists on being referred to as "Doctor."  It's tacky.  That's an affection for the people whose companies buy them mail order degrees from the Kennedy School of Public Administration.

My favorite story about this is my wife's ancient emeritus history faculty advisor walking into the office she shared in grad school with a newly minted PhD adjunct professor.  He looked at the guy's degree on the wall and said, "well, I assumed."  :P   He took it down that night.  Lesson learned.

ursusminor

Quote from: Trotsky on March 17, 2026, 07:07:33 PMNo true PhD ever insists on being referred to as "Doctor."  It's tacky.  That's an affection for the people whose companies buy them mail order degrees from the Kennedy School of Public Administration.

My favorite story about this is my wife's ancient emeritus history faculty advisor walking into the office she shared in grad school with a newly minted PhD adjunct professor.  He looked at the guy's degree on the wall and said, "well, I assumed."  :P   He took it down that night.  Lesson learned.

That should have been renamed the Trump-Kennedy School of Public Administration.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: ursusminor on March 18, 2026, 01:03:36 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on March 17, 2026, 07:07:33 PMNo true PhD ever insists on being referred to as "Doctor."  It's tacky.  That's an affection for the people whose companies buy them mail order degrees from the Kennedy School of Public Administration.

My favorite story about this is my wife's ancient emeritus history faculty advisor walking into the office she shared in grad school with a newly minted PhD adjunct professor.  He looked at the guy's degree on the wall and said, "well, I assumed."  :P   He took it down that night.  Lesson learned.

That should have been renamed the Trump-Kennedy School of Public Administration.

Only if they promise to scrape the bastard's name off it once he dies.

JasonN95

A humble request to all: This is a Cornell hockey focused forum. Let's leave politics out of it so it doesn't devolve into another "social" space on the internet ruined by political fights.

stereax

Quote from: JasonN95 on March 18, 2026, 12:31:54 PMA humble request to all: This is a Cornell hockey focused forum. Let's leave politics out of it so it doesn't devolve into another "social" space on the internet ruined by political fights.
I can't discuss DeSantis's radical new forecheck policy? ;)
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

Trotsky

Bravo, Adam.  And sign me up for the Day Hall takeover.

Just for the hell of it, really.

Old Red

Quote from: Trotsky on March 17, 2026, 07:07:33 PMNo true PhD ever insists on being referred to as "Doctor."  It's tacky.  That's an affection for the people whose companies buy them mail order degrees from the Kennedy School of Public Administration.

I think it's a German thing, to be called "Herr Doktor Professor."  But we don't do that in America or the ice hockey rink.

billhoward

Responders should post their class years, show how old are the attendees who are outraged (everyone with a complaint these days is "totally outraged," not just unhappy or concerned). And the people on eLynah may not be the mainstream of Lynah attendee opinion.

Peppy music is here to stay. Even in its distorted current incarnation because the speaker system just isn't up to the task.

I'd put my efforts into alcohol-everywhere at Lynah not just for a few sections. In the hands of those 21 and over, or who have great fake ID. Boy, it made the @Arizona State games more fun with alcohol available. Even if I stopped after one beer.

billhoward

I'm hearing that Doctor Moore is aware of the 1970s town rink quality lighting at Lynah Rink. Larry Baum has been shooting photos at Lynah since the 1960s, me since the 1970s. Praise the lord for Accufine (turbocharged film developer) that let you push VietnAm era ISO 400 Tri-XPan to ISO 1600 (read: effectively quadrupling the perceived lighting) to get passable shooting speeds. Half a century later there are more footcandles of light on the ice but it's uneven. It makes the broadcast/webcast video look bad as well as making photos uneven. All this costs money to fix but Cornell knows the importance of better webcasts for fans, for player parents, for prospective players.

Others note it takes no money or effort to pull the plug on canned music. But: This battle against music all the time the players aren't playing sort of ended around Y2K. This fan-friendly quote-unquote stuff goes hand in hand with sled pulling at intermission and shooting pucks from center ice at intermission.

Oh, also this: Women who watch games in person at Lynah are more pissed about the bathroom wait times at the inside-Lynah restrooms than they are about the 80-cents-on-the-dollar thing. When they're at Lynah. Yes, there are more women's bathrooms at Newman, outside Lynah, but that's an extra 5-8 minutes walk out and back. Using the inside-Lynah bathrooms, men are in and in out in less than 5 minutes, tops, even at period breaks.

billhoward

#26
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 17, 2026, 04:20:06 PMForgive me for not putting still photographers first.
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It's all a slippery slope to the SHU/Q experience where fans are mostly passive and every break has video production or pumped music with one or two breaks for the band each period and poor ACM is telling us about the East Hill Car Wash Penalty Box brought to you by Wegman's and the final minute of play will be sponsored by Cayuga Medical Center and RC Holmes.
Okay, we're on common ground here, the disdain for everything being sponsored and announced: "And nowwwwww for the Waffle Houssssssse starting lineups [cue SFX]."                 

My love for still photography is that my spending 8th through 12th grade doing the Malcolm Gladwell Outliers 10,000 hours of practice/learning (to get to the HS version of world-class good) shooting at sporting events and in the darkroom, also writing for the HS paper / yearbook got me a NYS HS state photographer of the year award and a job writing HS/college sports junior-sernior years for the 150,000-circ (back then) Rochester Democrat & Chronicle; that CV made Cornell look more at the extracurriculars and less at the HS GPA. Today I'd be just one more teenage Tik Tokker. Still photography has been eclipsed by video. If you have to have one, it's video. Video is better for showing hockey, auto racing, and airstrikes; stills are fine for showing the bodies. Video of Cornell hockey streaming video beats radio hands-down, although twice this winter-spring I have talked with long-time Ithaca area residents and they asked me, Do you miss the radio broadcasts? I say to the acquaintance, "Oh, yes we all miss it, there's nothing like being on a drive home [within range of the WHCU transmitter] or going somewhere or just driving around and having the [football hockey basketball] game on and it's almost like being there." Actually: That ship has sailed.

What is the disdain for hockey rinks with legroom, chairback seats, sightlines (you can see into all four corners) and up in the balcony in the corner, a section with booze as at Sacred Heart? Two, three years back we went to the at-Arizona State games and Gwen & I took our non-hockey-centric hosts to the ASU special section with tables up top and food (good food, not just hot dogs), wine, beer, available alcohol plus seats near center ice, all for a mere $150 a ticket. I'd do that once a year but not every game; nice to have that option. 

andyw2100

Quote from: billhoward on March 18, 2026, 11:14:04 PMI'd put my efforts into alcohol-everywhere at Lynah not just for a few sections. In the hands of those 21 and over, or who have great fake ID. Boy, it made the @Arizona State games more fun with alcohol available. Even if I stopped after one beer.

I'm pretty sure at some point this season they did make alcohol available everywhere. They are using wristbands to indicate people are of age.

andyw2100

Quote from: billhoward on March 18, 2026, 11:35:14 PMBut: This battle against music all the time the players aren't playing sort of ended around Y2K. This fan-friendly quote-unquote stuff goes hand in hand with sled pulling at intermission and shooting pucks from center ice at intermission.

The sled-pulling and puck shooting at intermission isn't detracting from the atmosphere during play. I can live with the piped in music then too, though I think it's unnecessary.

The Rancor

Quote from: andyw2100 on March 19, 2026, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: billhoward on March 18, 2026, 11:35:14 PMBut: This battle against music all the time the players aren't playing sort of ended around Y2K. This fan-friendly quote-unquote stuff goes hand in hand with sled pulling at intermission and shooting pucks from center ice at intermission.

The sled-pulling and puck shooting at intermission isn't detracting from the atmosphere during play. I can live with the piped in music then too, though I think it's unnecessary.

Would love to see the Skating Bear(s) again, sometime.