An Inconvenient Love: Fegaras And the Penalty Box

[Beeeej]

IIRC, Didn't Hornby take a momentum killing penalty late in thr Frozen Four game against UNH?

I don't know about momentum killing. We never stopped swarming but never broke through. Most painful save of my life. Hadn't had the wind knocked out of me like that by a goalie since Lemon got stuffed on the penalty shot.

You are right about the swarming at the end.  I was at that game.  Can't believe we didn't score.  With all of the pressure we were putting on, I just meant we lost 2 minutes of heavy offensein due to the penalty.  That save was insane.  Didn't Beeeej, Age, or someone get a picture of it?

Ayers's helmet save toward the end? It sure wasn't me, and I don't think I've ever seen such a photo.

[underskill]

Wasn't it on USCHO. Maybe the game recap?

[Trotsky]

The era of having an "enforcer" is long gone. Greg Hornby was the last I can remember.

High PIM:Pts ratio, since Hornby:
 
 

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Year PIM Pts
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2002 54  9 Greg Hornby
2003 98 14 Greg Hornby
2006 76  7 Jared Seminoff
2006 54  7 Tyler Mugford
2007 55  6 Tyler Mugford
2008 48  4 Tyler Mugford
2011 46  4 Rodger Craig
2011 54  6 Dan Nicholls
2012 71  2 Armand De Swardt
2013 59  4 Armand De Swardt

Jared Seminoff placed on this list because his freshman year, he couldn't guard a lamppost without tripping it.

Somehow, he became a very solid shutdown defender for the next three seasons.

I debated including him because he was a high skill player later in his career, but I am a slave to facticity.

[Trotsky]

a drunk Dartmouth

Redundant.

[cth95]

IIRC, Didn't Hornby take a momentum killing penalty late in thr Frozen Four game against UNH?

I don't know about momentum killing. We never stopped swarming but never broke through. Most painful save of my life. Hadn't had the wind knocked out of me like that by a goalie since Lemon got stuffed on the penalty shot.

You are right about the swarming at the end.  I was at that game.  Can't believe we didn't score.  With all of the pressure we were putting on, I just meant we lost 2 minutes of heavy offensein due to the penalty.  That save was insane.  Didn't Beeeej, Age, or someone get a picture of it?

Ayers's helmet save toward the end? It sure wasn't me, and I don't think I've ever seen such a photo.

Yes.  Maybe I am remembering incorrectly, but I am pretty sure I saw one back then and people were talking about it.  Maybe in the archives here?

[Trotsky]

That game, man.  After 45 seasons, more than 1000 games, if I could have one game back.

The night before that game Anne and I were simmering half drunk in the hotel hot tub and the UNH leading scorer came down to dip in, he was a very nice guy and we joked with him about an "accident"...

I'm not really sorry I didn't.  But I would be lying if I said I didn't sometimes think, late at night, ...

[cth95]

IIRC, Didn't Hornby take a momentum killing penalty late in thr Frozen Four game against UNH?

I don't know about momentum killing. We never stopped swarming but never broke through. Most painful save of my life. Hadn't had the wind knocked out of me like that by a goalie since Lemon got stuffed on the penalty shot.

You are right about the swarming at the end.  I was at that game.  Can't believe we didn't score.  With all of the pressure we were putting on, I just meant we lost 2 minutes of heavy offensein due to the penalty.  That save was insane.  Didn't Beeeej, Age, or someone get a picture of it?

Ayers's helmet save toward the end? It sure wasn't me, and I don't think I've ever seen such a photo.

Nothing in the game thread about a picture. The thread only runs through the night of the game, though.  I stand corrected on the penalty.  Shane Hynes took a high sticking penalty (mentioned in the thread as a dumb penalty like I remember thinking at the time) with 3:08 left after we had closed to 3-2 coming back from 3-0.

[Trotsky]

There was a lot of weird stuff in that game including, IIRC, a Cornell goal disallowed on a high stick that was the definition of borderline.

[cth95]

There was a lot of weird stuff in that game including, IIRC, a Cornell goal disallowed on a high stick that was the definition of borderline.

That was a big one.  We were all over them for the first 10 minutes or so. I think it was the correct call, but it took forever to review.  It seemed to kill our momentum and give UNH a reset.  I always wondered if the game would have been different if they just waved it off immediately and okay quickly resumed.

[Trotsky]

That was a big one.  We were all over them for the first 10 minutes or so. I think it was the correct call, but it took forever to review.

Exactly as I felt but later there was so much Butt Hurt I started to have my doubts.

Fuck it; makes the next NC$$ title that much sweeter!

[imafrshmn]

High PIM:Pts ratio, since Hornby:
 
 

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Year PIM Pts
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2002 54  9 Greg Hornby
2003 98 14 Greg Hornby
2006 76  7 Jared Seminoff
2006 54  7 Tyler Mugford
2007 55  6 Tyler Mugford
2008 48  4 Tyler Mugford
2011 46  4 Rodger Craig
2011 54  6 Dan Nicholls
2012 71  2 Armand De Swardt
2013 59  4 Armand De Swardt

Mugford was such a gritty player. That dude was absolutely an unsung hero on those teams. Every good Cornell team needs a Mugford type character.

[billhoward]

Tylor Mugford whose name was also destiny.

This is a more complex calculation than PIM vs. Points but ... maybe ... PIM versus Plus/Minus reveals more. I'm sure Gemini or Perplexity AI could work it up in a flash.

[RichH]

Tylor Mugford whose name was also destiny.

This is a more complex calculation than PIM vs. Points but ... maybe ... PIM versus Plus/Minus reveals more. I'm sure Gemini or Perplexity AI could work it up in a flash.

And pretty much guarantee wrong results.

As shady and buried as +/- stats are for the Web 1.0 era, asking an AI product to give you something like this would be hilarious. We'd be lucky to not have NFL stats by the end, given my observations of AI usefulness.

With the time you'd spend fine tuning your prompt, you probably could have done the exercise yourself.

[Trotsky]

thank for presenting

Not so fast, Cowboy.

Buy me a drink first.

[stereax]

Hey, he didn't take a penalty all weekend!