Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26

[upprdeck]

It was still pretty hard to get tickets in 88.  They had a 2 per person limit for new season ticket holders and they had less than 50 available from people who didn't renew.

[stereax]

The student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

I was there last weekend and the student side sections on Saturday were 75-80% full. It will be crowded both nights.

Last weekend they sold student side tickets as general access.

[Iceberg]

Syer deserves credit for getting Princeton to where it is this season. The big key tonight will be to keep the Daniells line off the scoresheet.

[chimpfood]

The student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

I was there last weekend and the student side sections on Saturday were 75-80% full. It will be crowded both nights.

I was there too. These games are included in the student season tickets whereas the last two weekends weren't. That means if the students haven't come back yet they can't sell the unused tickets. The majority of students are not back yet.

[stereax]

As for the Bobcats (16-4-2, 8-2-0 ECAC), Jones had a couple of words to describe them.

"It's Quinnipiac," he said.

McNally article about this weekend! Super informative.

[andyw2100]

I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

[pjd8]

I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.

[Beeeej]

As for the Bobcats (16-4-2, 8-2-0 ECAC), Jones had a couple of words to describe them.

"It's Quinnipiac," he said.

McNally article about this weekend! Super informative.

Breaking News: Daily Sun's editing still crappy

[Trotsky]

Breaking News: Daily Sun's editing still crappy

"Ithaca's Only Morning Sickness."

[andyw2100]

I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.

So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)

[Beeeej]

I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.

So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)

+1, "The West Wing"

[pjd8]

I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.

So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)

My memory on when it changed to having the band in F-G and changing C to boosters might be a year off, but I think it was in response to that super crappy year that was Reycroft's last. I did conduct the band in F-G, which would have been 87-88 (and some Fall 88). It also fits in with the kind of thing McCutcheon would do (it might not have been his idea, though). He probably had decent reasons if he instigated any of the changes, but he never was great with the intangibles. Which is why the team had some reasonable success during his tenure but never reached what we saw as our players' full potential. Whereas Schafe always "got it".

I have a more vivid memory of Schafe putting it back to the way it was when he was playing (his senior year was my freshman year, band in A, hard core students in B rather than D, but C did not revert back to students like it was in 85-86), because I was on campus as a grad student and active in the boosters. So there was a lot of "glory days" buzz about him coming in and then of the changes he was making. And the buzz was realized!

[andyw2100]

I have a more vivid memory of Schafe putting it back to the way it was when he was playing (his senior year was my freshman year, band in A, hard core students in B rather than D, but C did not revert back to students like it was in 85-86), because I was on campus as a grad student and active in the boosters. So there was a lot of "glory days" buzz about him coming in and then of the changes he was making. And the buzz was realized!

Ok. This part of it - what you are saying about the way it was when Schafer played (shooting West twice) - I do know you have wrong, pjd8.

I was here the same years as Mike - freshman in 1982, graduated in 1986. For 100% of that time we shot East (towards the closed end of the rink) for two of three periods, and section D was the premier student section.

I will add that I am almost certain the band was in A all of this time (1982-1986), so you may be conflating the band move, which I'm sure you are on top of, with the shooting twice end move.

[JasonN95]

I'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.

[andyw2100]

I'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.

Excellent! Glad this is settled! Thanks.