Lynah Attendance

Started by BearLover, December 08, 2025, 12:02:54 AM

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BearLover

Here's an idea to increase attendance, which has stunk this year and has been in gradual decline for over a decade: serve alcohol at the concession stands.

Trotsky

That's up there with jock jams.

By all means let's turn college hockey into that type of mouthbreather commodity. I'm sure there won't be any slide towards further enshittification.

VIEWfromK

It didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being. 

Weder

Honestly, as I've older I am not totally against having any kind of extra room. Lynah is a much better rink to stand in than to sit in. (Are more people buying alcohol since they expanded who can? When it was more limited I never saw more than a couple people in line.)
3/8/96

BearLover

Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 08, 2025, 08:01:16 AMIt didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being.
Well, those rinks might be even worse if not for their serving alcohol. Attendance and energy at Lynah has been weak lately, they've gotta find some way to get people to come and be rowdy. There are probably significant logistical issues with serving alcohol though. Anyone have any other ideas? (And please don't say "winning." It's been clear for a long time now that the correlation between team success and attendance is extremely weak.)

Beeeej

Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 08, 2025, 08:01:16 AMIt didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being.
Well, those rinks might be even worse if not for their serving alcohol. Attendance and energy at Lynah has been weak lately, they've gotta find some way to get people to come and be rowdy. There are probably significant logistical issues with serving alcohol though. Anyone have any other ideas? (And please don't say "winning." It's been clear for a long time now that the correlation between team success and attendance is extremely weak.)

Get more kids to care about something that most kids don't really care about that much anymore, on weekend nights, in an era when an evening's entertainment doesn't remotely require leaving home.

You're welcome.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej on December 08, 2025, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 08, 2025, 08:01:16 AMIt didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being.
Well, those rinks might be even worse if not for their serving alcohol. Attendance and energy at Lynah has been weak lately, they've gotta find some way to get people to come and be rowdy. There are probably significant logistical issues with serving alcohol though. Anyone have any other ideas? (And please don't say "winning." It's been clear for a long time now that the correlation between team success and attendance is extremely weak.)

Get more kids to care about something that most kids don't really care about that much anymore, on weekend nights, in an era when an evening's entertainment doesn't remotely require leaving home.

You're welcome.
Yes, that's why I suggest selling alcohol.

Beeeej

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Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 08, 2025, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 08, 2025, 08:01:16 AMIt didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being.
Well, those rinks might be even worse if not for their serving alcohol. Attendance and energy at Lynah has been weak lately, they've gotta find some way to get people to come and be rowdy. There are probably significant logistical issues with serving alcohol though. Anyone have any other ideas? (And please don't say "winning." It's been clear for a long time now that the correlation between team success and attendance is extremely weak.)

Get more kids to care about something that most kids don't really care about that much anymore, on weekend nights, in an era when an evening's entertainment doesn't remotely require leaving home.

You're welcome.
Yes, that's why I suggest selling alcohol.

Suggesting that they leave home and spend money to attend an event where they'll have the opportunity to spend additional money on booze is not a way to get anybody interested in anything in 2025. (Edit to add: Or 2026.)
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

marty

Quote from: Beeeej on December 08, 2025, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 08, 2025, 08:01:16 AMIt didn't help the Clarkson attendance Friday night and it hasn't helped Colgate attendance when we have gone to those games.  One thing is becoming very obvious as we continue to tour the other ECAC arenas is that Lynah still has the best atmosphere even if it currently isn't what we each remember it once being.
Well, those rinks might be even worse if not for their serving alcohol. Attendance and energy at Lynah has been weak lately, they've gotta find some way to get people to come and be rowdy. There are probably significant logistical issues with serving alcohol though. Anyone have any other ideas? (And please don't say "winning." It's been clear for a long time now that the correlation between team success and attendance is extremely weak.)

Get more kids to care about something that most kids don't really care about that much anymore, on weekend nights, in an era when an evening's entertainment doesn't remotely require leaving home.

You're welcome.

Ban cell phones for all undergraduates.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

chimpfood

The kids love free shit, and there were a ton of giveaways last year. You could be giving away the shittiest pair of socks or cowboy hat ever made and you bet you'll have a line out the door. Wouldn't be surprised to see more giveaways second semester.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfood on December 08, 2025, 03:05:48 PMThe kids love free shit, and there were a ton of giveaways last year. You could be giving away the shittiest pair of socks or cowboy hat ever made and you bet you'll have a line out the door. Wouldn't be surprised to see more giveaways second semester.
Oh my god that rodeo hat still lives in my closet.

But yeah, free mass-produced Crap™ helps. As I mentioned on the other thread, I can just as easily watch the game from home and save a lot of time going to/from the rink, especially during study season. You have to make the GOING THERE attractive enough.

Alcohol won't do it. Concessions struggles enough as is to sling out preprepped hot dogs and whatever the fuck they're calling nachos. Imagine them having to check IDs?

Not to bring up BU friend again, but over there, they do something where if you go to like, I think the number is 10 hockey games (M or W), you can get a free jersey. Which helps!

Their student section organization is also something to consider. I know the Lynah Faithful historically have relied on decentralization, but having a dedicated fan group who travels to games, gives recaps and opinions, and even has access to the players themselves for "exclusive content" and the like can do a lot to drum up support.

At the end of the day, Section B is fine. The core supporters are still here. It's everyone AROUND them that struggles to fill in seats. You have to flip the "marginal" attendees. Whether that's a giveaway or whatever else.

I always wondered why they don't make a limited set run of Cornell hockey cards. Give away two or three players' cards each home game. That way, to complete your collection you have to go to every home game, or at least enough of them so you get all the players. (You'd probably have some repeats, especially over intersession and the like, and maybe last home weekend is a "hey, if you're missing cards, show us your binder and we'll fill you up".) Hell, have the players sign 50 cards each randomly out of a run of 5000 or so.

Essentially, you want to "tie" people into going to MULTIPLE games, ideally to complete some sort of objective. People come for the Harvard game, always. Now get them to go to the Colgate one to get enough stamps to "redeem" a freebie.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

BearLover

FWIW the alcohol suggestion was really for the townies. Logistically they basically can't allow alcohol in the student sections because students will just pass it to their underage friends. Giveaways is a good idea, hopefully they bring those back. They also should only sell Harvard seats as part of a four-game package.

And yes, I have no issues with Section B, but we can't even fill A and C or get them to stand! It's basically a question of whether we can get 500-1000 marginal fans to come. If we can do that, we will have full attendance.

Beeeej

Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 05:17:18 PMThey also should only sell Harvard seats as part of a four-game package.

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Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej on December 08, 2025, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 05:17:18 PMThey also should only sell Harvard seats as part of a four-game package.

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What's wrong

Beeeej

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Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 08, 2025, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 05:17:18 PMThey also should only sell Harvard seats as part of a four-game package.

[insert legacy vomit emoji]
What's wrong

My opinion is that such a thing would backfire. You want the Harvard game sold out and packed, rather than risking empty seats because some people (understandably) didn't want to spend $80 on the Harvard game and some games they might or might not even be able to attend, much less want to, instead of spending $20. It works for Harvard to sell the Cornell game only as part of a package because Cornell fans in the Boston area are vindictive and spiteful, and gleefully spend the extra money, then fill Bright with red and white and outshout the few Harvard fans in attendance at games that are relatively meaningless to Cornell. Harvard fans won't do the same at Lynah.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona