Why you should apply to the Hockey Beat

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Trotsky

Quote from: adamwmy turn to say I agree a billion percent with Trotsky (I know there's no a billion percent, don't at me). I've been having these same conversations with my wife and her AI-loving friends. I win these arguments every time -- at least, in my limited mind.

You could also play them this video.

My prediction is we will eventually reach the tipping point where the regurgitation of comfortable, well scrubbed existing sounds, ideas, and I dunno maybe smells and textures will feel more "real" to people than actual new things, and then we can bring down the curtain on the whole human experiment.

Apex predators die of suicide.

adamw

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Quote from: adamwmy turn to say I agree a billion percent with Trotsky (I know there's no a billion percent, don't at me). I've been having these same conversations with my wife and her AI-loving friends. I win these arguments every time -- at least, in my limited mind.

You could also play them this video.

My prediction is we will eventually reach the tipping point where the regurgitation of comfortable, well scrubbed existing sounds, ideas, and I dunno maybe smells and textures will feel more "real" to people than actual new things, and then we can bring down the curtain on the whole human experiment.

Apex predators die of suicide.

Ha - I watch every Rick Beato video (former Ithaca College professor after all) and have mentioned that video plenty.
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Trotsky

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Quote from: adamwmy turn to say I agree a billion percent with Trotsky (I know there's no a billion percent, don't at me). I've been having these same conversations with my wife and her AI-loving friends. I win these arguments every time -- at least, in my limited mind.

You could also play them this video.

My prediction is we will eventually reach the tipping point where the regurgitation of comfortable, well scrubbed existing sounds, ideas, and I dunno maybe smells and textures will feel more "real" to people than actual new things, and then we can bring down the curtain on the whole human experiment.

Apex predators die of suicide.

Ha - I watch every Rick Beato video (former Ithaca College professor after all) and have mentioned that video plenty.

Beato is terrific.

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: adamwmy turn to say I agree a billion percent with Trotsky (I know there's no a billion percent, don't at me). I've been having these same conversations with my wife and her AI-loving friends. I win these arguments every time -- at least, in my limited mind.

You could also play them this video.

My prediction is we will eventually reach the tipping point where the regurgitation of comfortable, well scrubbed existing sounds, ideas, and I dunno maybe smells and textures will feel more "real" to people than actual new things, and then we can bring down the curtain on the whole human experiment.

Apex predators die of suicide.

Ha - I watch every Rick Beato video (former Ithaca College professor after all) and have mentioned that video plenty.

Beato is terrific.

Another Beato fan here!

BearLover

I've lost the plot. Are we talking about whether AI can be conscious, whether it can discover novel ideas, whether it can replace humans in economically valuable tasks, whether it can create art? These are all different questions and I'm not really qualified to opine on them. Though, I don't really think the answer can be derived from abstract philosophy or by analyzing the limitations of current models.

stereax

Quote from: BearLoverI've lost the plot. Are we talking about whether AI can be conscious, whether it can discover novel ideas, whether it can replace humans in economically valuable tasks, whether it can create art? These are all different questions and I'm not really qualified to opine on them. Though, I don't really think the answer can be derived from abstract philosophy or by analyzing the limitations of current models.
Well I think we WERE talking about McNally's retirement...

fastforward

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Quote from: BearLoverI've lost the plot. Are we talking about whether AI can be conscious, whether it can discover novel ideas, whether it can replace humans in economically valuable tasks, whether it can create art? These are all different questions and I'm not really qualified to opine on them. Though, I don't really think the answer can be derived from abstract philosophy or by analyzing the limitations of current models.
Well I think we WERE talking about McNally's retirement...
Bingo!

chimpfood

She's still here this year, they're just looking for extra help

stereax

Quote from: chimpfoodShe's still here this year, they're just looking for extra help
Impending!

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLoverI've lost the plot. Are we talking about whether AI can be conscious, whether it can discover novel ideas, whether it can replace humans in economically valuable tasks, whether it can create art? These are all different questions and I'm not really qualified to opine on them. Though, I don't really think the answer can be derived from abstract philosophy or by analyzing the limitations of current models.

How about all of the above.

Hopefully AI will be able to develop new revolutionary drugs that can be produced cheaply and therefore help all of humanity. I have some hope that will be true.

But I'll believe that it's close to humanity when I can carry on a conversation with it, we both go asleep and then we both come up with brand new thoughts about the subect in the morning.

Quote from: BearLoverTo the extent these things are true of AI, they are also true of humans. What we call human ingenuity, self awareness, or consciousness is really just us regurgitating data, similar to what an AI does.

What I see as problems with believing in AI, is that believers in AI seem to think that they understand how the brain thinks, thus thinking that dumping all knowledge into one machine will ultimately lead to thinking.

Personally I believe that we don't understand thinking and that it's a lot more than Xs & Os.

What it is, I have no idea, but I'm also pretty sure that others don't either.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005


billhoward

A lot of Sun reporters go on to the pros. More go to grad school, law school, med school, or non-journalism work. They money has never been good in entry-level publishing of any kind, now many pubs are dying, what remains include roles where there is a premium on fit-looking people in nice clothes who look good on camera. It also helps to the subject matter. I was one of the few Sun grads my year who went on to publishing: newspapers, PCMag, Forbes. Great ride.

Cornell won the NCAA hockey title in 1970, I arrived in Ithaca that fall, and was lucky to land one of the men's hockey beat roles that winter, helped immensely by having worked 20 hours a week for the Gannett Rochester paper junior and senior years on HS as a sportswriter, and it paid real money, something like 1.5X then-minimum wage. I loved every minute of my Sun years and seeing the triumph and heartbreak of hockey (March 1973, up 5-2 on Wisconsin early in the third, tied in the last 10 seconds, 6-5 loss in OT), lacrosse (first championship ever) and Marinaro-era football. There is nothing like sitting in the press box of the old Boston Garden, which press box was suspended from the balcony, and when the fans stomped there feet, the press box rose and fell about six inches. Jane, this was the era when women were excluded from the Schoellkopf press box, although the AD's wife was excepted, and ended when Cornell would not admit the Crimson's female football writer. That exclusion ended the next week when Harvard formally complained to Cornell's administration.

While video is the prevailing format going forward, there remains a need for insight that comes best from the written word, like Adam and College Hockey News.

AI? It's not perfect but it's getting way better. It can write stories of small town HS sports for the small town papers (that mostly don't exist anymore). It can make reporters smarter, and it also can make them have to write even more stories with the help of AI.

I keep my hand in shooting photos of ECAC hockey, primarily of St. Lawrence women's hockey (our son is trainer) when they're in Ithaca or Princeton area near us, with the understanding that they otherwise would not be not hiring a freelancer to shoot stills at away games, so I'm not taking work away. It's fun.

Trotsky

It's just applying a template.  It is literally content as form.  

That is no bueno.  It doesn't make reporters smarter, it doesn't help anybody do anything except owners run leaner to make more money to lobby to pay less taxes to make more money to lobby...

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: fastforwardhttps://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/08/why-you-should-apply-to-the-hockey-beat

Great article-fabulous opportunity
I know who I would recommend but I think her hands are full with law school
Sorry - for those not on X, Jane wrote a great article and they're looking for after she graduates
Jane has done a great job covering the hockey team the past few seasons. She's given Cornell hockey the best coverage it's had in the Sun in years. She's done so while also being a member of the Cornell field hockey team. She's been a backup goalie and has hardly played over her first three years. Kudos to her for putting in all the time even though she has mostly sat on the sidelines.
She just shut out #17 Yale 2-0 in the first game at the new field hockey field.
Al DeFlorio '65