Opponent and other news and results 2025-2026

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chimpfood

Quote from: CU2007 on October 18, 2025, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on October 17, 2025, 11:19:30 PMSorry showing from the ECAC tonight. If Quinnipiac hadn't come back in the final minutes against Maine, it would have been an oh-for (o-fer?).

It's too early to be saying this but it's looking like another year of just Quinnipiac + tournament champion in the NCAA.

Was thinking the same, which got me thinking - What percentage of OOC games happen very early in the season (when teams are not what they will be come tourney time) and how much does that impact who gets in? I assume greatly, which seems unfortunate.

Right now the ECAC is 10-15-3. That's a 0.411 winning percentage. I can't easily find the record from last year but in 2023-2024 the season ended with the ECAC having a .414 record in non com games. So this isn't a disaster so far, and better news for us is that two of the losses come from BU and Alaska who we play, so those won't hurt us. Also this is just anecdotal but it seems like the ECAC non conference games have been against tough opponents so far this year, but maybe I'm just making that up.

CU2007

Quote from: chimpfood on October 18, 2025, 10:20:56 PM
Quote from: CU2007 on October 18, 2025, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on October 17, 2025, 11:19:30 PMSorry showing from the ECAC tonight. If Quinnipiac hadn't come back in the final minutes against Maine, it would have been an oh-for (o-fer?).

It's too early to be saying this but it's looking like another year of just Quinnipiac + tournament champion in the NCAA.

Was thinking the same, which got me thinking - What percentage of OOC games happen very early in the season (when teams are not what they will be come tourney time) and how much does that impact who gets in? I assume greatly, which seems unfortunate.

Right now the ECAC is 10-15-3. That's a 0.411 winning percentage. I can't easily find the record from last year but in 2023-2024 the season ended with the ECAC having a .414 record in non com games. So this isn't a disaster so far, and better news for us is that two of the losses come from BU and Alaska who we play, so those won't hurt us. Also this is just anecdotal but it seems like the ECAC non conference games have been against tough opponents so far this year, but maybe I'm just making that up.

Depends if the league is playing the same quality of teams year to year, which may be true - I honestly have no idea. But, I always cringe when I see an ECAC team lose to a team in Atlantic Hockey.

Chris '03

Quote from: CU2007 on October 18, 2025, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on October 17, 2025, 11:19:30 PMSorry showing from the ECAC tonight. If Quinnipiac hadn't come back in the final minutes against Maine, it would have been an oh-for (o-fer?).

It's too early to be saying this but it's looking like another year of just Quinnipiac + tournament champion in the NCAA.

Was thinking the same, which got me thinking - What percentage of OOC games happen very early in the season (when teams are not what they will be come tourney time) and how much does that impact who gets in? I assume greatly, which seems unfortunate.

Agree. I think the old record in last 16 criterion was intended to account for that and reward the hot hand.

As long as the start dates are staggered, the ivies in particular would benefit from front loading conference games (particularly amongst themselves) and maybe making the period from roughly Thanksgiving to MLK the OOC window.
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BearLover

Quote from: Chris '03 on October 19, 2025, 05:42:52 PM
Quote from: CU2007 on October 18, 2025, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on October 17, 2025, 11:19:30 PMSorry showing from the ECAC tonight. If Quinnipiac hadn't come back in the final minutes against Maine, it would have been an oh-for (o-fer?).

It's too early to be saying this but it's looking like another year of just Quinnipiac + tournament champion in the NCAA.

Was thinking the same, which got me thinking - What percentage of OOC games happen very early in the season (when teams are not what they will be come tourney time) and how much does that impact who gets in? I assume greatly, which seems unfortunate.

Agree. I think the old record in last 16 criterion was intended to account for that and reward the hot hand.

As long as the start dates are staggered, the ivies in particular would benefit from front loading conference games (particularly amongst themselves) and maybe making the period from roughly Thanksgiving to MLK the OOC window.
All games should carry equal weight. The alternative doesn't seem fair. If teams struggle more early, that's the same problem everyone has to deal with. Well, except for the Ivies. That's an Ivy problem, and yes that can be fixed to some degree by scheduling more intra-Ivy games early, and indeed Yale-Brown and Harvard-Dartmouth used to play each other opening weekend, but Cornell can't really do this with its non-Ivy travel partner.

Trotsky

Re-sort as Cornell/Princeton, Brown/Yale, Harvard/Dartmouth, the North Country, the Capital District, Q/Colgate.  Play the ECAC home-and-homes as the first weekend of Ivy sufferance.  Move that Ivy start forward by only one week. 

The earlier league start also gives the mid season more flexibility to schedule non-conference opponents according to their availability.

Problem solved.  I'll have a Samuel Smith Chocolate Stout, please.  Next: the Middle East.

TimV

Q-Colgate seems like a long trip between games.  How about Q-RPI and Colgate-Union to split the difference.
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Quote from: TimV on October 20, 2025, 01:38:16 PMQ-Colgate seems like a long trip between games.  How about Q-RPI and Colgate-Union to split the difference.
Yes, Q-gate is about an hour longer than the current Q-Princeton
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adamw

Quote from: chimpfood on October 18, 2025, 10:20:56 PM
Quote from: CU2007 on October 18, 2025, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on October 17, 2025, 11:19:30 PMSorry showing from the ECAC tonight. If Quinnipiac hadn't come back in the final minutes against Maine, it would have been an oh-for (o-fer?).

It's too early to be saying this but it's looking like another year of just Quinnipiac + tournament champion in the NCAA.

Was thinking the same, which got me thinking - What percentage of OOC games happen very early in the season (when teams are not what they will be come tourney time) and how much does that impact who gets in? I assume greatly, which seems unfortunate.

Right now the ECAC is 10-15-3. That's a 0.411 winning percentage. I can't easily find the record from last year but in 2023-2024 the season ended with the ECAC having a .414 record in non com games. So this isn't a disaster so far, and better news for us is that two of the losses come from BU and Alaska who we play, so those won't hurt us. Also this is just anecdotal but it seems like the ECAC non conference games have been against tough opponents so far this year, but maybe I'm just making that up.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php

hover over the Inter-Conference Records tab - click on any of the past seasons.

Here's 2023-24

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php?s=20232024
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Iceberg

UND loses to Clarkson in the North Country. Hmm...

Trotsky

Quote from: Iceberg on October 24, 2025, 09:30:11 PMUND loses to Clarkson in the North Country. Hmm...

3 upsets:

Clarkson 5 #8 North Dakota 2
Colgate 3 #10 Maine 2
Merrimack 4 #6 Quinnipiac 1

1 chalk:

#20 Mankato 4 RPI 2

ursusminor

Quote from: Trotsky on October 24, 2025, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: Iceberg on October 24, 2025, 09:30:11 PMUND loses to Clarkson in the North Country. Hmm...

3 upsets:

Clarkson 5 #8 North Dakota 2
Colgate 3 #10 Maine 2
Merrimack 4 #6 Quinnipiac 1

1 chalk:

#20 Mankato 4 RPI 2

I got all four wrong in the prediction contest on USCHO. I did no worse when I forgot to post guesses last week.  :)

Trotsky

Quote from: ursusminor on October 25, 2025, 01:22:47 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on October 24, 2025, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: Iceberg on October 24, 2025, 09:30:11 PMUND loses to Clarkson in the North Country. Hmm...

3 upsets:

Clarkson 5 #8 North Dakota 2
Colgate 3 #10 Maine 2
Merrimack 4 #6 Quinnipiac 1

1 chalk:

#20 Mankato 4 RPI 2

I got all four wrong in the prediction contest on USCHO. I did no worse when I forgot to post guesses last week.  :)

I dunno it seems consistent.  All four ranked teams severely underperformed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ;)

upprdeck

Clarkson has beaten PSU/NDAK and also got dominated by a bad RIT team and lost to Canisius who also beat Colgate, but Colgate has tied BU and beaten Maine?  Canisius lost to LIU which is that teams only win.

Also since NPI has replaced the pairwise. What tweaks were made to make that different?

upprdeck

Also noticed that other than the IVYs there is only Miami left as an undefeated untied team, 2-3 weeks into the season.

adamw

Quote from: upprdeck on October 25, 2025, 10:51:14 AMClarkson has beaten PSU/NDAK and also got dominated by a bad RIT team and lost to Canisius who also beat Colgate, but Colgate has tied BU and beaten Maine?  Canisius lost to LIU which is that teams only win.

Also since NPI has replaced the pairwise. What tweaks were made to make that different?

It's complicated

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=npi
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