WHCU ends broadcast partnership with CU

[marty]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

[upprdeck]

I think the big loss is that without the radio crew you most likely lose the pre-post game stuff.  Most of that is not provided on ESPN+ feeds.

[adamw]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

There may be a couple in Hockey East running two crews. Nowhere else that's part of the ESPN+ platform. I think Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Colgate and Union have pro radio still (maybe not by now, not sure), and all simulcast to the stream.

It is 100% an unfortunate by-product of this that road coverage with Cornell broadcasters is gone, and pre and post-game ... though the pre/post could still theoretically be done, and that would be a good addition, really, given what happened. I know Clarkson has a post-game coach interview on its ESPN+ feed.

[marty]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

There may be a couple in Hockey East running two crews. Nowhere else that's part of the ESPN+ platform. I think Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Colgate and Union have pro radio still (maybe not by now, not sure), and all simulcast to the stream.

It is 100% an unfortunate by-product of this that road coverage with Cornell broadcasters is gone, and pre and post-game ... though the pre/post could still theoretically be done, and that would be a good addition, really, given what happened. I know Clarkson has a post-game coach interview on its ESPN+ feed.

I realized after I read your post that RPI has a student broadcast on WRPI along with the ESPN+ stream.  I don't think Union has a real radio broadcast.  Perhaps they have a local campus only AM only station, but the very weak 1240 AM, if it exists, doesn't reach my house east of Troy.  I could pick it up a few years ago.

[ursusminor]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

There may be a couple in Hockey East running two crews. Nowhere else that's part of the ESPN+ platform. I think Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Colgate and Union have pro radio still (maybe not by now, not sure), and all simulcast to the stream.

It is 100% an unfortunate by-product of this that road coverage with Cornell broadcasters is gone, and pre and post-game ... though the pre/post could still theoretically be done, and that would be a good addition, really, given what happened. I know Clarkson has a post-game coach interview on its ESPN+ feed.

I realized after I read your post that RPI has a student broadcast on WRPI along with the ESPN+ stream.  I don't think Union has a real radio broadcast.  Perhaps they have a local campus only AM only station, but the very weak 1240 AM, if it exists, doesn't reach my house east of Troy.  I could pick it up a few years ago.

WRPI is indeed a student station, and years ago the hockey announcers were all students, however now there is little student interest in being announcers and most are alums.

[marty]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

There may be a couple in Hockey East running two crews. Nowhere else that's part of the ESPN+ platform. I think Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Colgate and Union have pro radio still (maybe not by now, not sure), and all simulcast to the stream.

It is 100% an unfortunate by-product of this that road coverage with Cornell broadcasters is gone, and pre and post-game ... though the pre/post could still theoretically be done, and that would be a good addition, really, given what happened. I know Clarkson has a post-game coach interview on its ESPN+ feed.

I realized after I read your post that RPI has a student broadcast on WRPI along with the ESPN+ stream.  I don't think Union has a real radio broadcast.  Perhaps they have a local campus only AM only station, but the very weak 1240 AM, if it exists, doesn't reach my house east of Troy.  I could pick it up a few years ago.

WRPI is indeed a student station, and years ago the hockey announcers were all students, however now there is little student interest in being announcers and most are alums.

One of my not so close friends flunked out of Cornell - twice - because of all the time he spent at WVBR.  Then about 20 years ago I saw his name in some sort of radio almanac.  I hope he had a decent career.

[jtwcornell91]

Anyone so long as Pierre McGuire is not involved

I don't really get where this is coming from. Pierre was on the #1 NHL commentary team for a long time and would be a big upgrade over anyone who has ever announced Cornell hockey games.

Back before 2010 or so, TV broadcasts of the NCAA Regionals and even the Frozen Four were commentated by people with a long history in college hockey broadcasting, including goofy but lovable color commentators like Bob Norton, Doug Woog and Cap Raeder.  Then ESPN dug its tendrils into the enterprise and replaced them with their standard NHL crews.  Something was lost then, and I'd rather not see a similar thing happen to the regular season streams.

BTW - ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with these Cornell broadcasts or any of the other college broadcasts. They just "air" them.

This of course makes sense.  Is there a grid regarding how many schools were running two crews - one audio only and one for the ESPN+ feed?  I'm such a one trick Big Red fan that I don't even know if Cornell football had away game coverage on HCU.

I'm expecting that the change means we will lose all away game coverage - sad if true.  Will there be no "Voice of the Big Red" when the teams visits Troy and Schenectady or make post season away game appearances?

::panic::

There may be a couple in Hockey East running two crews. Nowhere else that's part of the ESPN+ platform. I think Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Colgate and Union have pro radio still (maybe not by now, not sure), and all simulcast to the stream.

It is 100% an unfortunate by-product of this that road coverage with Cornell broadcasters is gone, and pre and post-game ... though the pre/post could still theoretically be done, and that would be a good addition, really, given what happened. I know Clarkson has a post-game coach interview on its ESPN+ feed.

I realized after I read your post that RPI has a student broadcast on WRPI along with the ESPN+ stream.  I don't think Union has a real radio broadcast.  Perhaps they have a local campus only AM only station, but the very weak 1240 AM, if it exists, doesn't reach my house east of Troy.  I could pick it up a few years ago.

WRPI is indeed a student station, and years ago the hockey announcers were all students, however now there is little student interest in being announcers and most are alums.

I presume Jason Moy is long gone?

[RichH]

I presume Jason Moy is long gone?

Last hockey content from him (uscho) is in 2023. In 2024, he was hired by someone in the semiconductor industry.

https://smttoday.com/2024/06/17/kyzen-introduces-jayson-moy-as-product-line-director/

[ursusminor]

I presume Jason Moy is long gone?

Last hockey content from him (uscho) is in 2023. In 2024, he was hired by someone in the semiconductor industry.

https://smttoday.com/2024/06/17/kyzen-introduces-jayson-moy-as-product-line-director/

His partner at WRPI, Kurt Stutt, still does RPI football. As best I can recall Kurt's last hockey game was an away game several years ago.

[marty]

I presume Jason Moy is long gone?

Last hockey content from him (uscho) is in 2023. In 2024, he was hired by someone in the semiconductor industry.

https://smttoday.com/2024/06/17/kyzen-introduces-jayson-moy-as-product-line-director/

His partner at WRPI, Kurt Stutt, still does RPI football. As best I can recall Kurt's last hockey game was an away game several years ago.

And Kurt seems to run an erzatz TBRW.

[adamw]

Jayson has lived in Singapore for like 20 years - at least last I knew.

[Trotsky]

Jayson has lived in Singapore for like 20 years - at least last I knew.

Hmm.  Have he and Curtis Yarvin ever been seen in the same place at the same time.

[George64]

Cornell Sun Fun fact: Cornell owned WHCU until 1985.

[Chris '03]

Jane McNally on the issue for the Sun: https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/08/cornell-athletics-cuts-ties-with-longtime-men-s-hockey-broadcast-partner-whcu-undergoes-changes-to-espn-broadcasts?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMDDslleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlsqIJafAGFgS51FcLmsMW1-nm_V_Qo2WK_dhqegilJjvwX_15O2Yrmp4oZK_aem_krziAIDNU5pmopGkXQ9uKA

[billchu]

Maybe Gary Thorne would do the play-by-play now that Gio is enrolling.