Cornell VS Clarkson , Saturday Feb 23rd

[jeh25]

Tom Lento wrote:

And the classless Clarkson band, how dare they applaud politely after our Alma Mater!  Oh, wait. . .

Don't stereotype.  I highly doubt that the Clarkson hockey program, as a whole, would condone intentionally firing a puck at an opposing coach.

Yeah, making gross sweeping generalizations based on the actions of a few bad apples is RichS's job...

Funny, he was at the game night and we have yet to hear from him....

[Al DeFlorio]

Wishful thinking, John.  We'll hear more than we need to, I'm afraid to say.

Read the finest in whining over on the Round Table.  Pass the gruyere.

[Greg Berge]

Clarkson has a great program, and I don't think it's fair to call them classless.  I think the problem here is with a few individual players:

O'Flaherty, according to a Clarkson fan on USCHO, has already had one DQ, so this is his second.

Poapst has always been a nasty little punk.  He's got the inside track to be immortalized as the first Golden Knight recipient of the Kevan Melrose Award for least respected opponent.

Thank the gods that Murray kept his cool.

[Ben Doyle 03]

Calling the entire program classless was an overstatement on my behalf. . .apologies for that broad brushed inference. It upsets me that in our two contests this season, I have either witnessed or been the target of (student ushers) misguided Clarkson aggression upon the conclusion contest. So. . .b/c my experiences this season have not been pleasent, I'll be more careful when throwing my $.02 into the conversation.;-)

[melissa]

Yeah. Murray was REALLY on fire last night. That guy goes a few games without doing much of anything aside from some hard hitting and then gets the first 5 pt performance in 4 years ( i think the last was during Lady's freshamn year but I'm too lazy to check it). Last night he was friggin unbelieveable. At times he even appreared to have some real speed.  I was very impressed. He had me eating my previous assessment and I admit I was more than happy to do so.:-D

[littleredfan]

Yeah I agree Melissa...I saw him working really hard with a good transition game.  But thing is, I almost feel he almost got lucky with his slapshot last night.  I mean, clearly its a REALLY hard shot, but I think we were also screening Walsh very well and Clarkson's defense wasn't really pushing the screen out well.  I definitely think Murray has skill moving the puck towards the goal on a non-slapshot.  If you look at some of the old media on elynah from earlier games where murray scored a couple goals, I remember one or two where he skated across the center and flicked it in.  Its definitely harder to get him off the puck than some other players, but its usually the case that he's playing a more defensive game from the blueline so doesnt get a chance to show off those skills.

[DeltaOne81]

About the alma mater... was I the only one to take exception to the whole lighters thing? Did you guys see it as a genuine tribute, bc I thought it was a mockery. Mocking the team, expected, mocking the fans, acceptable... mocking the school's alma mater? Get some class.

[melissa]

 yeah. definitely mockery and tho i personally try and respect others' alma matters i really wasn't that offended. in thie respect colgate really shows class. was very impressed that gate stood out of respect during ours when visiting.

[judy]

I was amused by the lighters...of course, most of what the Clarkson band does amuses me since they're one of the few schools in the ECAC whose fans have some sort of energy.

[DeltaOne81]

I wouldn't insult them for their energy, as annoying as it might be the ECAC needs more schools with fans like Clarkson (and the Lynah Faithful of course). I just felt that whole lighters thing was mocking our respect for our school, which isn't to be touched. The emotional equivalent of bottle-throwing if you will. I dunno, just pissed me off, as I'm sure you can tell.

[KeithK]

Oh please. Were they mocking us a bit during the Alma Mater? Yeah sure. But you've got to admit, singing the whole six verse Alma is probably worth a little mocking from the opponent's perspective. I mean, it takes almost the whole intermission!  And this comes from someone who memorized the whole six verses  years ago and really misses being there for the group rendition.  Save your indignation for something that deserves it. This seems like a bit of good natured ribbing...
Heck, it's not like they played over it, which happened to me once at Cheel while we were singing the Alma a capella.

[RichS]

More than a few red fans have made classless remarks and "sweeping generalizations" about the Clarkson program and fans etc...including the proud Al D...Be's not the first.

Yes, I was there last night...stayed through the end of the ceremony honoring the seniors...very well done.  Then had a few other folks to ta;k with.

I just got back to NJ a while ago after the trip down from Binghamton today but it will be a bit later or tomorrow before I can comment.  No surprise I didn't see things quite as one sided as some... but not all...of you folks did.    :-D

[RichS]

After all your years of supposed association with the cornell program, I thought perhaps some of the class you so bountifully attach to it would have rubbed off on you...

Guess I'm not surprised that your comment here is more gratuitous sarcasm.   Oh, and uh...where's the  "whining" on the RT you're referring to?

[tml5]

Here we go again. . . Al, Rich, stop it.  Seriously.  Or should we resurrect the sandbox thread?

As for the lighters - it's something of a tradition.  Cornell plays the Alma Mater, the Clarkson band stands and waves lighters.  They've done it for several years now, and as evidenced by the fact that several Clarkson bandies applauded politely when it was done it's nothing more than good-natured ribbing.

[Al DeFlorio]

From the Round Table (posted in two different threads in case someone might miss it--as RichS obviously did):

"I was at the game last night and the referring was absolutly terrible....Cook from Cornell should have been called about 6 different times for holding or high sticking, but he was never called. Also, I heard that they DQ's to O'F and Poaspt were going to be reviewed by the ECAC commissioner, but the tape that was recording the game ended with just over a minute left to go....THAT IS ABSOLUTLY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

"The knights played extremely well in the 1st and 2nd period, in order for us to believe that they were two comparable teams on the ice especially since the amount of penalties that should have been called on Cornell.....the knights kept their cool and until the end of the 3rd, played well. I can understand why they lost it at the end of the 3rd because the Clarkson fans were losing it as well...it was heartbreaking to watch."