Recruits 2026 and Beyond

[stereax]

I have us with 7 draft picks on the team now.  I'm sure I missed somebody.

Your list is missing the great Cournoyer

Who? We ran Keopple for every game last year, silly.

[marty]

I have us with 7 draft picks on the team now.  I'm sure I missed somebody.

Your list is missing the great Cournoyer

You HATE to tell us.   

[adamw]

Question: post-secondary school implies college.

Will he come in as a sophomore? Or, what I consider to be way more likely, will they not transfer his credits in to preserve eligibility?

Fun fact: when I was looking up Gardiner, I pulled up some of the '23 combine results. Among them, Castagna. So that gives you a little bit of perspective.

"Throughout the season, Gardiner posted a 90% academic average through American Public University"

Good catch. Coming in as a 21 year old probably just makes sense to start him as a sophomore if they can, seems unlikely he stays all 4 if things go well.

I have literally never heard of that before.

It's an online education thing - looks like their billing is affordable, flexible degrees. Not sure if Cornell would even accept that transfer credit tbh...

I have never heard of it either. Maybe he did it to become college eligible or something? I doubt he comes in as a sophomore, or that he doesn't plan to stay 4 years. I mean, sure, if he blows up and has pro teams after him, then he might leave early, but given he was drafted 3 years ago and the Stars didn't offer him a contract, I think he is making the smart decision to get a great degree and play high level college hockey.

Note that this is under the old rules - which are changing - but are still valid as of this year. ...

The "delayed enrollment" rule in college hockey - until now - was 20 years old to be still considered a freshman. But for when a player turns 21 after Jan. 1 of his final season of junior hockey, so they don't have to decide whether to leave their junior team mid-year, but in order to be considered a freshman in the fall, they have to take full-time college classes in the spring semester. Then they can still come to the NCAA in the fall and be considered a freshman with four years of eligibility remaining. They lose one year off their "5 to play 4" clock - but still have "4 to play 4"

Just an esoteric aspect of things that has been in place for a while.

[stereax]

Question: post-secondary school implies college.

Will he come in as a sophomore? Or, what I consider to be way more likely, will they not transfer his credits in to preserve eligibility?

Fun fact: when I was looking up Gardiner, I pulled up some of the '23 combine results. Among them, Castagna. So that gives you a little bit of perspective.

"Throughout the season, Gardiner posted a 90% academic average through American Public University"

Good catch. Coming in as a 21 year old probably just makes sense to start him as a sophomore if they can, seems unlikely he stays all 4 if things go well.

I have literally never heard of that before.

It's an online education thing - looks like their billing is affordable, flexible degrees. Not sure if Cornell would even accept that transfer credit tbh...

I have never heard of it either. Maybe he did it to become college eligible or something? I doubt he comes in as a sophomore, or that he doesn't plan to stay 4 years. I mean, sure, if he blows up and has pro teams after him, then he might leave early, but given he was drafted 3 years ago and the Stars didn't offer him a contract, I think he is making the smart decision to get a great degree and play high level college hockey.

Note that this is under the old rules - which are changing - but are still valid as of this year. ...

The "delayed enrollment" rule in college hockey - until now - was 20 years old to be still considered a freshman. But for when a player turns 21 after Jan. 1 of his final season of junior hockey, so they don't have to decide whether to leave their junior team mid-year, but in order to be considered a freshman in the fall, they have to take full-time college classes in the spring semester. Then they can still come to the NCAA in the fall and be considered a freshman with four years of eligibility remaining. They lose one year off their "5 to play 4" clock - but still have "4 to play 4"

Just an esoteric aspect of things that has been in place for a while.

My math is breaking, but wouldn't that have applied to a player like Hiscock (July '04 birthday)?

[Trotsky]

I have us with 7 draft picks on the team now.  I'm sure I missed somebody.

Your list is missing the great Cournoyer

Thank you, fixed.

[stereax]

Dear god, why am I watching the Lumberjacks-Stampede USHL final. There isn't even a future Cornell player here.

[George64]

Please stop Major at center. It is painful for me.

Wasn't he becoming cromulent on draws towards the end?  I could be hallucinating.

[stereax]

Please stop Major at center. It is painful for me.

Wasn't he becoming cromulent on draws towards the end?  I could be hallucinating.

I just checked this. Looks like he was shifted to draws around the Harvard game - had a few good games, had a good night against SLU, but otherwise pretty fucking awful.

[Trotsky]

17 games.  Prime, of course.  Bah.

First 8: 44-60 .425
Game 9: 5-14 .263 vs Q
Last 8: 32-45 .416

Total: 81-119 .405

Their numbers are off by 10 on each side, or I mathed bad.

In any case, no, he didn't get any better*.  The treasure was the friends he made along the way.

* _{Although he never repeated his 4-game midseason 15-47 .242 skein.}

[Trotsky]

IINM we have several entering centers so we don't need to ever run that experiment again.

[stereax]

17 games.  Prime, of course.  Bah.

First 8: 44-60 .425
Game 9: 5-14 .263 vs Q
Last 8: 32-45 .416

Total: 81-119 .405

Their numbers are off by 10 on each side, or I mathed bad.

In any case, no, he didn't get any better*.  The treasure was the friends he made along the way.

* _{Although he never repeated his 4-game midseason 15-47 .242 skein.}

This is reminding me of the Devils beat reporters going "Look, Markstrom isn't that bad! If you just remove LITERALLY THE WORST GAME A GOALIE HAS EVER HAD SINCE WE STARTED ADVANCED STAT TRACKING versus the Isles, he's only SLIGHTLY below average! "

Like buddy that's not how it works 😭

Also, singling out Q is funny because he went 4 and 16 in the Colgate game for a whopping .200. Granted, that's the one where Walsh was suspended and Castagna also got booted, so he probably took a LOT more draws than expected.

Also, a .405 is Jack Hughes in the dot numbers. Unless you are fucking Jack Hughes, that's not gonna cut it! And as much as we all love Charlie, he ain't that good, otherwise he'd be at a blueblood school. (Sidenote - is Cornell a blueblood? Not like BC, BU, Michigan, NoDak, Wisconsin, Denver, right? Purpleblood?)

What COULD be interesting is if you put DiGiulian through the Cornell Faceoff Bootcamp, then put him on Major's wing and have him take the draws, but Major plays in the center position. Kinda like Haula did for Jack when he was a Devil. But also, I kinda think Major's skillset outside of draws is better suited to being a winger, and, with a veritable glut of forwards on the team, there's no lack of centers who are actually good at being centers. I also don't really like him on the third line - he's got talent that gets squandered when you put him in that kind of role. I think next year you at least start him in the top six. Kraft-Walsh-Ryan, Long-Zadvernyuk-Major? You could flip Ryan and Major around depending on vibes.

(Also, your numbers are off 'cause he took a few draws in the fall, but I didn't put those in the screenshot because going 1-0 in the dot means fuck all and he was being used as a winger then.)

("Stere, do you make EVERYTHING about the New Jersey Devils?" Have you met me? The answer is yes, of course I do! It's either the Devils, or the VGK, or the Cornell hockey teams. You're used to this by now!)

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Sidenote - is Cornell a blueblood? Not like BC, BU, Michigan, NoDak, Wisconsin, Denver, right? Purpleblood?

Redblood.

Duh!

[arugula]

17 games.  Prime, of course.  Bah.

First 8: 44-60 .425
Game 9: 5-14 .263 vs Q
Last 8: 32-45 .416

Total: 81-119 .405

Their numbers are off by 10 on each side, or I mathed bad.

In any case, no, he didn't get any better*.  The treasure was the friends he made along the way.

* _{Although he never repeated his 4-game midseason 15-47 .242 skein.}

This is reminding me of the Devils beat reporters going "Look, Markstrom isn't that bad! If you just remove LITERALLY THE WORST GAME A GOALIE HAS EVER HAD SINCE WE STARTED ADVANCED STAT TRACKING versus the Isles, he's only SLIGHTLY below average! "

Like buddy that's not how it works 😭

Also, singling out Q is funny because he went 4 and 16 in the Colgate game for a whopping .200. Granted, that's the one where Walsh was suspended and Castagna also got booted, so he probably took a LOT more draws than expected.

Also, a .405 is Jack Hughes in the dot numbers. Unless you are fucking Jack Hughes, that's not gonna cut it! And as much as we all love Charlie, he ain't that good, otherwise he'd be at a blueblood school. (Sidenote - is Cornell a blueblood? Not like BC, BU, Michigan, NoDak, Wisconsin, Denver, right? Purpleblood?)

What COULD be interesting is if you put DiGiulian through the Cornell Faceoff Bootcamp, then put him on Major's wing and have him take the draws, but Major plays in the center position. Kinda like Haula did for Jack when he was a Devil. But also, I kinda think Major's skillset outside of draws is better suited to being a winger, and, with a veritable glut of forwards on the team, there's no lack of centers who are actually good at being centers. I also don't really like him on the third line - he's got talent that gets squandered when you put him in that kind of role. I think next year you at least start him in the top six. Kraft-Walsh-Ryan, Long-Zadvernyuk-Major? You could flip Ryan and Major around depending on vibes.

(Also, your numbers are off 'cause he took a few draws in the fall, but I didn't put those in the screenshot because going 1-0 in the dot means fuck all and he was being used as a winger then.)

("Stere, do you make EVERYTHING about the New Jersey Devils?" Have you met me? The answer is yes, of course I do! It's either the Devils, or the VGK, or the Cornell hockey teams. You're used to this by now!)

Vgk!?!?  Now you lost me.  Pure evil. 

[Trotsky]

Vgk!?!?  Now you lost me.  Pure evil.

Tawdry, but not evil.

The only evil in the NHL is the Slave States. FLA, TB, NSH, CAR, DAL. 

[stereax]

17 games.  Prime, of course.  Bah.

First 8: 44-60 .425
Game 9: 5-14 .263 vs Q
Last 8: 32-45 .416

Total: 81-119 .405

Their numbers are off by 10 on each side, or I mathed bad.

In any case, no, he didn't get any better*.  The treasure was the friends he made along the way.

* _{Although he never repeated his 4-game midseason 15-47 .242 skein.}

This is reminding me of the Devils beat reporters going "Look, Markstrom isn't that bad! If you just remove LITERALLY THE WORST GAME A GOALIE HAS EVER HAD SINCE WE STARTED ADVANCED STAT TRACKING versus the Isles, he's only SLIGHTLY below average! "

Like buddy that's not how it works 😭

Also, singling out Q is funny because he went 4 and 16 in the Colgate game for a whopping .200. Granted, that's the one where Walsh was suspended and Castagna also got booted, so he probably took a LOT more draws than expected.

Also, a .405 is Jack Hughes in the dot numbers. Unless you are fucking Jack Hughes, that's not gonna cut it! And as much as we all love Charlie, he ain't that good, otherwise he'd be at a blueblood school. (Sidenote - is Cornell a blueblood? Not like BC, BU, Michigan, NoDak, Wisconsin, Denver, right? Purpleblood?)

What COULD be interesting is if you put DiGiulian through the Cornell Faceoff Bootcamp, then put him on Major's wing and have him take the draws, but Major plays in the center position. Kinda like Haula did for Jack when he was a Devil. But also, I kinda think Major's skillset outside of draws is better suited to being a winger, and, with a veritable glut of forwards on the team, there's no lack of centers who are actually good at being centers. I also don't really like him on the third line - he's got talent that gets squandered when you put him in that kind of role. I think next year you at least start him in the top six. Kraft-Walsh-Ryan, Long-Zadvernyuk-Major? You could flip Ryan and Major around depending on vibes.

(Also, your numbers are off 'cause he took a few draws in the fall, but I didn't put those in the screenshot because going 1-0 in the dot means fuck all and he was being used as a winger then.)

("Stere, do you make EVERYTHING about the New Jersey Devils?" Have you met me? The answer is yes, of course I do! It's either the Devils, or the VGK, or the Cornell hockey teams. You're used to this by now!)

Vgk!?!?  Now you lost me.  Pure evil. 

I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE GOLDEN KNIGHTS SINCE THE MISFITS CUP RUN. I HAVE A RIGHT!