Cornell v Yale 5/2 ILT SEMI

[KenP]

Our offense seems to have a tougher time in sloppy weather... is anyone worried about the rain tomorrow? Similarly will it hinder Princeton's style of game as much?

[Swampy]

Is anyone worried about the rain tomorrow? Our offense seems to have a tougher time in sloppy weather?  Similarly will it hinder Princeton's game?

Yes.

[Swampy]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

[margolism]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

Agree that both halves count the same, but the break between halves gives the coaching staff the opportunity to make offensive and defensive adjustments, and I feel like they excel at these adjustments. This was another game where that happened.  We were outscored 9-8 in the first half, but outscored Princeton 12 to 6 in the second half.

The 15 goals we gave up today is a season high (previous was 14, twice).  But the 20 goals we scored against Princeton is by far the most goals they have given up all season (previous was 14 against Duke, in a game they won.)

If we score 16 goals in a game, chances are extremely high that we win.  And that would technically be below our per game average of 16.21, which will increase marginally after today's game.

[mike1960]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

Agree that both halves count the same, but the break between halves gives the coaching staff the opportunity to make offensive and defensive adjustments, and I feel like they excel at these adjustments. This was another game where that happened.  We were outscored 9-8 in the first half, but outscored Princeton 12 to 6 in the second half.

The 15 goals we gave up today is a season high (previous was 14, twice).  But the 20 goals we scored against Princeton is by far the most goals they have given up all season (previous was 14 against Duke, in a game they won.)

If we score 16 goals in a game, chances are extremely high that we win.  And that would technically be below our per game average of 16.21, which will increase marginally after today's game.

In the MLB, if you show you have trouble hitting the sweeper, you're going to see a million of them.

Our weakness is our on-ball defense, especially with our SSDMs. Look for every team to attack us there for the next four games, should we be fortunate to play that many.

[scoop85]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

Agree that both halves count the same, but the break between halves gives the coaching staff the opportunity to make offensive and defensive adjustments, and I feel like they excel at these adjustments. This was another game where that happened.  We were outscored 9-8 in the first half, but outscored Princeton 12 to 6 in the second half.

The 15 goals we gave up today is a season high (previous was 14, twice).  But the 20 goals we scored against Princeton is by far the most goals they have given up all season (previous was 14 against Duke, in a game they won.)

If we score 16 goals in a game, chances are extremely high that we win.  And that would technically be below our per game average of 16.21, which will increase marginally after today's game.

In the MLB, if you show you have trouble hitting the sweeper, you're going to see a million of them.

Our weakness is our on-ball defense, especially with our SSDMs. Look for every team to attack us there for the next four games, should we be fortunate to play that many.

Missing Box and Bozzi changes our defensive dynamic. Hopefully they are able to make it back for the NCAA's.

[Swampy]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

Agree that both halves count the same, but the break between halves gives the coaching staff the opportunity to make offensive and defensive adjustments, and I feel like they excel at these adjustments. This was another game where that happened.  We were outscored 9-8 in the first half, but outscored Princeton 12 to 6 in the second half.

The 15 goals we gave up today is a season high (previous was 14, twice).  But the 20 goals we scored against Princeton is by far the most goals they have given up all season (previous was 14 against Duke, in a game they won.)

If we score 16 goals in a game, chances are extremely high that we win.  And that would technically be below our per game average of 16.21, which will increase marginally after today's game.

In the MLB, if you show you have trouble hitting the sweeper, you're going to see a million of them.

Our weakness is our on-ball defense, especially with our SSDMs. Look for every team to attack us there for the next four games, should we be fortunate to play that many.

But they're liable to be surprised if & when Box and Bozzi come back.

[mike1960]

I prefer to look at the D for what they are.

They make mistakes

But they held Yale to 5 in the 2nd half
Dart to 3
Harv to 4
SU to 1 in the 4th
Brown to 3
Penn to 4
Princ to 4
PSU to 4 until the epic penalty drive last 3+ min
Rich to 3
Hobart to 2
Denver to 4
Lehigh to 5

Only yale the first game scored more than 5 and that was mostly the game was out of hand at that point

if we continue to hold teams to 5 or less in the 2nd half our offense can win the game

It makes more sense to look at both halves because both halves count the same. Cornell's defense has been pretty good this year, and Knust has been solid. In the last few games though, particularly against Harvard and Yale, we've had a lot of lapses. Maybe due to injury. Seems we let a lot of opposing attackmen dodge freely into the slot area (to use a hockey term).

Two additional points:

• Our FOGOs seems to be better as the game goes on. I'd like to see statistics on FOGO wins by half
• Similarly, I have the sense that when we're leading by >= 3 goals in the second half, it's not so much that we're taking our foot off the pedal as it is that we're deliberately looking for the best shot even (or especially) if it goes far into the shot clock.

In otherwords our impressive defensive performance in second halves may be due to a more rested defense augmented by greater reliance on our better defensive players getting more playing time, combined with our offensive performance and strategy, which relieves pressure on our defense while tiring out our opponent's D.

BL's point about injury is a good one. Without knowing the specifics of the injuries, we just have to hope the injured SSDMs heal by May 17 (when we might expect to begin facing other seeded teams). In the meantime, their substitutes will be getting valuable experience.

Agree that both halves count the same, but the break between halves gives the coaching staff the opportunity to make offensive and defensive adjustments, and I feel like they excel at these adjustments. This was another game where that happened.  We were outscored 9-8 in the first half, but outscored Princeton 12 to 6 in the second half.

The 15 goals we gave up today is a season high (previous was 14, twice).  But the 20 goals we scored against Princeton is by far the most goals they have given up all season (previous was 14 against Duke, in a game they won.)

If we score 16 goals in a game, chances are extremely high that we win.  And that would technically be below our per game average of 16.21, which will increase marginally after today's game.

In the MLB, if you show you have trouble hitting the sweeper, you're going to see a million of them.

Our weakness is our on-ball defense, especially with our SSDMs. Look for every team to attack us there for the next four games, should we be fortunate to play that many.

But they're liable to be surprised if & when Box and Bozzi come back.

That would be huge if they can come back 95 - 100%.

[MattShaf]

Our offense seems to have a tougher time in sloppy weather... is anyone worried about the rain tomorrow? Similarly will it hinder Princeton's style of game as much?

20 goals performance in Ivy League Finals, not too shabby.
We also rocked Syracuse for 17 in what was wet weather and terrible field conditions.

[BearLover]

Does anyone know the status of Box and Bozzi? I think we are going to need them.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to look at goals scored/goals allowed without the context of saves and faceoffs. I'm not sure Cornell's D was that much better in the second half than the first; we just got more saves and won more faceoffs, so Princeton's offense didn't get as many chances.

This team shows amazing poise in close games.

[djk26]

Does anyone know the status of Box and Bozzi? I think we are going to need them.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to look at goals scored/goals allowed without the context of saves and faceoffs. I'm not sure Cornell's D was that much better in the second half than the first; we just got more saves and won more faceoffs, so Princeton's offense didn't get as many chances.

This team shows amazing poise in close games.

Jesus, BearLover, do you ever enjoy anything?

[upprdeck]

Yup we got some saves.  At one point we had lost a bunch of Faceoffs in a row to start the 3rd

We also caused some turnovers and clock violations,


we made 8 saves in the 1st and 7 in the 2nd
we have 5 TOs in the 1st and 8 in the 2nd
faceoffs we were 50/50 in the 2nd half

Prin had less shots and made less saves in the 2nd half.  that was the game

[BearLover]

Does anyone know the status of Box and Bozzi? I think we are going to need them.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to look at goals scored/goals allowed without the context of saves and faceoffs. I'm not sure Cornell's D was that much better in the second half than the first; we just got more saves and won more faceoffs, so Princeton's offense didn't get as many chances.

This team shows amazing poise in close games.

Jesus, BearLover, do you ever enjoy anything?

That was awesome

[mike1960]

Yup we got some saves.  At one point we had lost a bunch of Faceoffs in a row to start the 3rd

We also caused some turnovers and clock violations,


we made 8 saves in the 1st and 7 in the 2nd
we have 5 TOs in the 1st and 8 in the 2nd
faceoffs we were 50/50 in the 2nd half

Prin had less shots and made less saves in the 2nd half.  that was the game

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[ugarte]

Does anyone know the status of Box and Bozzi? I think we are going to need them.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to look at goals scored/goals allowed without the context of saves and faceoffs. I'm not sure Cornell's D was that much better in the second half than the first; we just got more saves and won more faceoffs, so Princeton's offense didn't get as many chances.

This team shows amazing poise in close games.

i think this is basically right - our defense is good but our real advantage is offensive efficiency, possession and control. i don't think we're losing any of those skills any time soon.

is it better if we get our best defensemen back? sure. but the team is clicking so that's what gets my attention.