NCAAs quarterfinal Cornell vs. BU

[BearLover]

it seems like most on here are way more okay with losing and other schools surpassing Cornell than I am.

Your constant negativity whether directly stated or implied is beyond tedious.  Others here choosing to reflect on the good rather than constantly harping on real or perceived problems does not mean that we are some how more ok with losing than you are. Get over yourself.  Your schtick incredibly stale, lacks nuance, and lacks any kind of emotional maturity.

Thank you my friend. I would say the exact same thing about your post and the 200 other posts that expressed the exact same thought within the past 24 hours.

I hope you find peace.

Thank you! Same to you my friend.

[BearLover]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

We would have had a very winnable game in the frozen four had we advanced.

[Tcl123]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

We would have had a very winnable game in the frozen four had we advanced.

Thought the exact same thing. But then again I'm sure MSU was eyeing up BU when field was  announced.

[ER]

I've mostly stayed out of this never-ending nonsense but I'm tired of it.

This isn't a sports forum in the sense of a bunch of anonymous semi-literate know it alls yelling at each other online to feel better about themselves. There are plenty of places online for that. I stopped spending any time there years ago.

Many of the long time posters here go back to the beginning of elf and the chdf before that and also know each other offline. For many, the common thread is Cornell hockey.  In 2002, I went from dag14's class on the ag quad to Columbus to watch the season opener (with turkeybone and Josh 99). On the drive I passed Jim Hyla. Scersk97 was at the game. I remember jtw at placid in 2002 working out the pairwise in the days we'll before smart phones. I met ugarte at a lax playoff game with richh. Dbilmes is a fixture at games in CT. I watched plenty of games with ER when we were in school at the same time. The list goes on.

Everyone here loves Cornell and Cornell hockey. Everyone here understands the pain of being teased into believing and then getting punched in the gut. Nobody is looking for the tone of a typical sports message board.  Nobody is looking for innuendo or suggestions about all the low hanging fruit one perceives being missed. Or constant needling and ad hominem assault. I don't care if people are positive or negative. Talk about the games. Be critical of decisions on the ice. Lament ivy rules and covid changes.  But check the needless combativeness and childish name calling at the door. And remember that we're talking about students playing a game.  

For me at least, Cornell hockey is a refuge from the world burning all around us. If I want to be surrounded by gratuitous combativeness, I've got plenty of options.

Thank you for this, I've been feeling exactly the same way but couldn't articulate it. I thought about abandoning my readership here because of the escalating negative tone this season, but for reasons I won't get into decided to get back to posting instead.

Whether or not I disengage and go back to mainly lurking again next season, I hope eLF will be back to the substitute for getting a beverage after the game, enjoying each other's company, and, yes, bickering good-naturedly on occasion. I always felt that was the main vibe of this forum, even in the down years (which were never long-lived under Schafer - his worst run was 4 mediocre seasons in a row!).

Those must have been the exact four years I was in school. They weren't great. I certainly don't remember any ecac titles.

[Jim Hyla]

We have been fortunate to have eLynah, and USCHO, and before them all Wayne Smith and Mike Machnik's hockey-l all the way back in the early 90s before some of you were born. ::cheer::  Before that was Don Birkmayer's "The Hockey News," begun in 1954, before we all (I think?) were born.

We stand on the shoulders of giants.

Wrong!
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Very.

Trotsky gets it very, unexplainably wrong. How in the world could we have seen 1970, say nothing of 67 if we were born after 56.

I know we oldies were awfully smart, but Cornell didn't take us when we were 10.

And Don Birkmayer's mimeographed (You youngsters go look that one up) report was called "The Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter."

[jtwcornell91]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

[Tcl123]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

[BearLover]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

I am rooting for Penn state. I'm not rooting for the team with the mercenary goalie who ended Mike's career

[Tcl123]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

I am rooting for Penn state. I'm not rooting for the team with the mercenary goalie who ended Mike's career

Unlike what seems like a majority here, I like your posts. But we will disagree on this particular game on rooting interest.

[marty]

And so I don't really care to celebrate our run and Schafer's career immediately following one of the most brutal losses I have ever seen.
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Dude, are you nuts??
BU killed Ohio State 8-3
We lost in OT
Brutal loss?
No way was this a brutal loss
I think you should get a hobby - knitting or crochet might be good therapy

Wow, some of this stuff on this forum seriously reads like it came from people who have never watched sports before. Yes, losing in the regional final in OT when your team hasn't been to the frozen four since 2003 is 1000x more brutal than losing 8-3 in the opening round. Are you nuts?

Also, why do you even care what I think? I'm just expressing my own opinion, I'm not attacking anybody. Get a grip, dude, not everyone is a happy-go-lucky optimist who smiles serenely after Cornell loses in OT in the regional final to its arch rival to end the career of its coach. I post the most benign shit ever and without fail it triggers a massive freakout. This is the softest and most cringe sports forum in the history of the internet, you all need to grow up.

After watching CU hockey for 62 years I have my own perspective.

And this is not brutal. Getting real close and not winning is sports. Yes doing it year after year is tough, but not brutal to me. I drove 7 hours to Toledo and then 7 hours back right after the game. Fortunately Marty was with me. If he hadn't texted me, I doubt I would have made the drive.

But you know what, I was happy that I did it. I was happy that I had the opportunity to do it.

You see for me winning is great, but you know what's better? HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN! You don't get the opportunity to win a game like this unless you have already been winning.

Unfortunately for too many of those 62 years I never had this opportunity to watch a regional final. You see, there were many, too many years when that chance never existed. We were never there. And let me tell you after 2 National Championships and 4 ECAC Championships in a row, those years were bad.

For me winning is great, but you know what's better than winning, being with people that really care like you do. People that say thank you every time that I give them a newspaper, or people that proudly show me the newspaper that they brought with them. Turn around and look at the group of Cornell fans that are with you. They cheer on their own, cheer with the band, stand whenever they hear "Townies Up." That's what makes this not brutal.

I drove home happy about being there, not happy that they lost. Give me a break! No I was happy that I was able to be there with everyone else. I was happy that Marty texted me and that we drove 14 hours in one day to be able to be part of it.

Those types of memories will stay with me. I'll always be unhappy that we lost, but I'll be happier that they gave me the chance to be there and hope they could win.

If you want to understand this further, go watch or read what Coach said about Cornell in his post game, it's opportunity for him and it's students, the administration that gave him this chance, the band, the fans, but most of all the players that he's had a chance to coach, the true student athletes that he's been proud to associate with. And why when you put all this into perspective, why he's happy where his life's taken him, even though he's pissed about losing.

I'm sure he must have had chances to go to bigger programs, but he stayed at Cornell, because as he implied, there was something special that he felt.

Losing or not, he goes out a winner and I feel privileged to have been able to see some small part of that with him.

This wasn't brutal, this was a privilege that other schools haven't had.

+ 2.5 (hours) ;-)

[Tcl123]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

I am rooting for Penn state. I'm not rooting for the team with the mercenary goalie who ended Mike's career

Unlike what seems like a majority here, I like your posts. But we will disagree on this particular game on rooting interest.  

Ps-I've been called an asshole as well by a current Elynah member. Badge of honor I guess.

I'm assuming the ultimate dagger would be WMU winning the whole thing.

[scoop85]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

I am rooting for Penn state. I'm not rooting for the team with the mercenary goalie who ended Mike's career

Unlike what seems like a majority here, I like your posts. But we will disagree on this particular game on rooting interest.  

Ps-I've been called an asshole as well by a current Elynah member. Badge of honor I guess.

I'm assuming the ultimate dagger would be WMU winning the whole thing.

I'll be all in on WMU. They'll be the only remaining team that I could stomach winning it.

[BearLover]

At the end of the day though, my argument was more an emotional one (not wanting to see the team that thumped us ten times in a row, with me watching in person, win a national title before we did) rather than a logical one.

*whispers* Penn State playing Connecticut for a spot in the Frozen Four stings

What a tough game for me to have a rooting interest.

They loved it on E$PN, though.

I can finally say go bu.

I am rooting for Penn state. I'm not rooting for the team with the mercenary goalie who ended Mike's career

Unlike what seems like a majority here, I like your posts. But we will disagree on this particular game on rooting interest.  

Ps-I've been called an asshole as well by a current Elynah member. Badge of honor I guess.

I'm assuming the ultimate dagger would be WMU winning the whole thing.

I'll be all in on WMU. They'll be the only remaining team that I could stomach winning it.

Personally, I mostly just don't want to root for our rivals or the team that knocked us out. Not really a fan of Denver but they've won enough lately that they probably wouldn't even care too much if they won another one. I'd rank the remaining teams WMU, Denver, Penn State, BU, but most of all I really don't want BU to win it.

[Swampy]

I'm a Mets fan. Cornell hockey can't hurt me because I'm already dead.

Well, at least (I hope for your sake) you're not also a Jets fan! ::banana::

[Dafatone]

I'm a Mets fan. Cornell hockey can't hurt me because I'm already dead.

Well, at least (I hope for your sake) you're not also a Jets fan! ::banana::

I actually picked the rest of my teams based on who was good when I was 5, so I'm an insufferable Niners Bulls Pens fan on those fronts.

Mets make up for it, though.