Men's Basketball March 2025

Started by ugarte, March 02, 2025, 02:12:49 PM

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mike1960

Any thoughts on why Steve Donahue was successful at Cornell but not at Boston or, for the most part, at Penn?

ugarte

Quote from: mike1960Any thoughts on why Steve Donahue was successful at Cornell but not at Boston or, for the most part, at Penn?
caught lightning in a bottle and it's a hard job even if you're good at it

mike1960

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Quote from: mike1960Any thoughts on why Steve Donahue was successful at Cornell but not at Boston or, for the most part, at Penn?
caught lightning in a bottle and it's a hard job even if you're good at it

Having a group of good players, you mean?

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: mike1960Any thoughts on why Steve Donahue was successful at Cornell but not at Boston or, for the most part, at Penn?
caught lightning in a bottle and it's a hard job even if you're good at it

Having a group of good players, you mean?
Three of whom were strokes of good luck.  Dale recruited himself by sending a video to Donahue.  Foote transferred in because his mother nursed s seriously-injured Cornell player and liked that the team visited him often.  Wittman, targeted for a big-time program, was injured senior year in high school so was viewed as a risk.  His father, an NBA GM, sent him to Cornell.
Al DeFlorio '65

mike1960

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Quote from: mike1960
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Quote from: mike1960Any thoughts on why Steve Donahue was successful at Cornell but not at Boston or, for the most part, at Penn?
caught lightning in a bottle and it's a hard job even if you're good at it

Having a group of good players, you mean?
Three of whom were strokes of good luck.  Dale recruited himself by sending a video to Donahue.  Foote transferred in because his mother nursed s seriously-injured Cornell player and liked that the team visited him often.  Wittman, targeted for a big-time program, was injured senior year in high school so was viewed as a risk.  His father, an NBA GM, sent him to Cornell.

Thanks, Al.

ugarte

holy fucking shit we beat msu 4-3 on a goal from sullivan mack with 10 seconds left in the game. i know this is the basketball thread but i figure if i'm going to make you open this thread for nothing you might as well smile.

CU77

Quote from: ugarteholy fucking shit we beat msu 4-3 on a goal from sullivan mack with 10 seconds left in the game. i know this is the basketball thread but i figure if i'm going to make you open this thread for nothing you might as well smile.

LOL!

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mike1960

Quote from: ugarteholy fucking shit we beat msu 4-3 on a goal from sullivan mack with 10 seconds left in the game. i know this is the basketball thread but i figure if i'm going to make you open this thread for nothing you might as well smile.

Perfect pass across traffic by Charlie Major. Brilliant finish by Sullivan Mack. Beautiful!

Tcl123

Quote from: ugarteholy fucking shit we beat msu 4-3 on a goal from sullivan mack with 10 seconds left in the game. i know this is the basketball thread but i figure if i'm going to make you open this thread for nothing you might as well smile.

Well played.


scoop85

Quote from: chimpfoodGood/bad news depending on how you look at it.

https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/04/princeton-sports-news-xaivian-lee-entering-ncaa-transfer-portal

I'm not thrilled when Ivy guys leave except for grad transfers, which hopefully will largely be a thing of the past. I'd hate to see us sink to Patriot League levels.

billhoward

Right: "These past three years at Princeton have been the most meaningful of my life. This place has shaped me as a person and challenged me. It gave me a platform to chase my dreams and now Princeton is a place I know I can always call home," says star junior guard Xaivian Lee as he announces he leaves his Old Nassau home to enter the transfer portal and test the NBA draft waters. (The Daily Princetonian actually uppercases "Draft" waters.) If he did, the Bleacher Report has him as the 52nd pick.

rss77

In some ways I have never understood the need "To play at a higher level". IMO you are what you are as a player.  Playing in the Big East as opposed to the Ivies does not make you a better basketball player.  I remember Jimmy Boeheim's comment that he was surprised there was not much difference in athleticsm between the Ivies and ACC.  The difference at higher levels is athleticsm coupled with height.  Lee is chasing NIL money and is under the illusion it will elevate him to  1st round pick (2nd round IMO).

rss77

Also check it out but I believe Patriot League schools are doing NIL collectives.

scoop85

Quote from: rss77In some ways I have never understood the need "To play at a higher level". IMO you are what you are as a player.  Playing in the Big East as opposed to the Ivies does not make you a better basketball player.  I remember Jimmy Boeheim's comment that he was surprised there was not much difference in athleticsm between the Ivies and ACC.  The difference at higher levels is athleticsm coupled with height.  Lee is chasing NIL money and is under the illusion it will elevate him to  1st round pick (2nd round IMO).

Can't say I'm on board with you on this. While the Ivies have clearly stepped up their game the past few years, there's still a significant gap in athleticism between the Ivies and the power programs. I think Danny Wolf has clearly elevated his draft stock by playing at Michigan this year,  as he's proven he can compete day-in-day-out with the highest caliber college talent. While I think Lee's a good player, I don't think he's better than Matt Morgan, who's carved out an excellent European career but hasn't been able to crack the NBA. I think Okereke will thrive at wherever he ends up next year and will likely have the biggest impact of any Cornell transfer over the past several years.