SHU 1/10-11

[Tcl123]

Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out

We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.

goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.

I am not being an apologist.  I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time.  If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left.  That demo is just so fucking weak.

For what it's worth, I didn't watch the game, specifically because of what you said (it's a shitty way to spend my time).

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[Trotsky]

Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard.  And then, if they won, my god what bliss!  And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.

[BearLover]

Can we please try Keoppel or Katz tomorrow? The game is meaningless, it makes absolutely no sense to keep running Shane out

We have no idea what is going on in practice.

Believe it or not the staff is trying to do what is best for the team.

goddamn dude nobody doubts this and tbh after a 1-1 tie i don't know that the goalie is who you hang the blame on but if you want to run PR for the coaching staff at least get paid.

I am not being an apologist.  I am arguing that watching the games just to tally wins is a shitty way to spend your time.  If you're not enjoying the game for the game's sake, find some other dick measuring stick.

There's a reason I left.  That demo is just so fucking weak.

You are not! You are specifically arguing that the coaching decisions are sacrosanct since we only get to see the games. That might be true - for all I know Keopple and Katz look awful and we're lucky that we never see it when it counts -  but it's hardly worth stating but for the fact that you're knee-jerk reacting to someone upset about a really bad result. You see it as a dick measuring stick because *you* can't help but respond to every complaint without running interference, kumbaya shit or a complaint about Kids Today.

You *also* want to win the games; you aren't marking time until you die by watching hockey. BearLover's cope is "change something, anything for the sake of change." Your cope is deciding that's beyond the pale. My cope is whatever this is.

The notion that coaching decisions are sacrosanct is just ridiculous. It's not only Trotsky saying it, it's adamw and a host of others. The whole team is a disaster, obviously coaching has something to do with it. The notion that we shouldn't be disappointed is similarly ridiculous. It's early January in Schafer's last season and we've already resigned ourselves to just playing out the string and praying things break our way in the ECAC tournament! This season sucks! You don't need to be a pessimist like me to see that. Brutal results upon brutal results, soft goals given up every game, the PP never comes through, the whole team has been out of sync since day one.

And yes my knee-jerk reaction to yet another awful result is to repeat the same crap I say every week, but the apology tour being put on by this forum on behalf of the 2024-25 Cornell men's ice hockey team is equally tiresome at this point.

[Big Dingus]

Another game, another poor performance.

Worst part is we will never know what's going on. Same team as last year and we have the worst season in 10 years. pretty incredible.

[ugarte]

Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard.  And then, if they won, my god what bliss!  And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.

bandwagon fans stop watching. Nobody here isn't watching (bl's joke aside). in fact, we're watching quite closely.

[fastforward]

Good news for tomorrow for those that get SNY-tape delay -it says Sunday ?

Cornell will conclude its non-conference portion of the regular season on Saturday when it returns to Martire Family Arena for a 5 p.m. puck drop against the Pioneers. Game action will be broadcast on FloHockey.tv, and air on SNY on a tape delay at 4 p.m. ET on Sunday. The game will also be carried over the airwaves on WHCU (870 AM, 97.7 FM, cortacatoday.com), featuring Jason Weinstein on play-by-play and Tony Eisenhut '88 providing analysis.

[Dafatone]

Maybe as a Mets fans I just learned to hope they played hard.  And then, if they won, my god what bliss!  And if they lost, get 'em next time; except for a countable number of times where I'd have cried myself to sleep if it would do any good.

There is a special circle of hell for bandwagon fans.

Yeah, when you're 8 and you go to Shea and the Mets fire Jeff Torborg mid-game and forget to play Take Me Out to the Ballgame in the chaos, well, it doesn't get worse than that.

[marty]

Did anyone else think that Gundarah, who's listed as 6 feet 180, looked like he was at least 250? Bubble wrap or too many trips to a Tim Horton's?

[CU2007]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

[dbilmes]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.

[BearLover]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How??" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.

[Iceberg]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

It was a meaningless shootout. Perhaps the coaches had agreed ahead of time to have one if the game was tied, since apparently we can't just let a game end in a tie (although that's what this game was).
I doubt Suda, who was the only player to score in the shootout, would have been one of Schafer's top choices if a point in the ECAC standings was on the line. I was sitting behind the Cornell bench and you could tell no one on the bench, especially the coaches, was that worked up about it. Schafer wasn't even watching the whole time.

Suda scored in the shootout at Harvard so I'd say he's more than capable. Even Kempf has appeared in shootouts occasionally

[CU2007]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How??" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.

Qpac at MSG makes sense because there's a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There's definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd

[BearLover]

Why is there a shootout in a non-conference, non-tournament game?

Related question: why do the Cornell hockey social media pages celebrate like we won the whole game when we win a shootout, even for games like last night and vs Quinnipiac at MSG where the shootout is literally meaningless for the Pairwise or standings? I get they want to hype up the fans, but it's so misleading. The casual fan sees that stuff and thinks we actually won. Same for the standards and coverage of the team reporting OT wins as normal wins, etc. It really inflates the perception of what has been an extremely mediocre season (5 regulation wins, 4 regulation losses, 4 ties, 1 3x3 overtime win).

It seems to have spilled over to the team and coaches too: Schafer proud of his team after they tie (47th in the PWR) Harvard, proud after they tie Quinnipiac. Schafer happy with the team's play when they lose 4-0 to ASU. Bancroft in MSG postgame saying "the boys got it done" following a tie. Raucous celebration beating a mediocre team (Colgate) at home in OT. Okay, the last one actually makes sense to do in the moment, but that was a bad Pairwise result and nobody cares to acknowledge that. Reminds me of 2021-22 when we kept beating bad teams in 3x3 OT and our record showed we were like 9-0-1 and then we collapsed in the second half and everyone was like "How??" Coverage of college hockey needs to treat shootouts as ties and there needs to be a separate column for OT wins and losses.

Qpac at MSG makes sense because there's a frozen apple trophy that somebody has to win. At least I think there is. There's definitely a red hot hockey trophy. Tournaments make sense obviously. But last night, literally pointless. Very odd

It's fine to do a shootout at the Frozen Apple (I'm also not sure there's a trophy) but it's really funny how probably 95% of Cornell fans in attendance thought we "won" the game. And if you'd seen the Cornell Hockey social media posts you'd think we won too.

[scoop85]

In the recesses of my brain I thought I'd read that the NCAA has mandated shootouts in all games. But perhaps I am imagining that.