ECAC 2025

[Jim Hyla]

Although not a bad thought, they can't do it exactly the 1980 way. Back then the tournament teams were not reseeded after each round,

So as #8 we played, and beat, #1 BC away. Then #2 Providence @ the Garden. Finally #3 Dartmouth.

It was fun, but probably won't ever happen again.

On the contrary, with reseeding it's probably exactly what would happen.

You are exactly right!

[billhoward]

Six games left, 18 points possible, Cornell in sixth place needs to pick up 7 points relative to fourth place Clarkson or 8 points relative to third-place Union to get a first-round bye then home seeding for the quarterfinal round. It seemed a less challenging task a week ago with eight games to play.

What's possible? If the pairwise ranking is definitive (if), Cornell at 32 PWR will beat all except Clarkson, though Union looked really tough Saturday night. We may get help from Quinnipiac, which has games left vs. Union, and from a Dartmouth-Union game. But at some point we're playing if, if and if.

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32  Cornell PWR
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43  @Brown
54  @Yale
27  Clarkson
55  St. Lawrence
35  @Union
58  @RPI

[pjd8]

In another example of parity in the league, I watched the end of the Princeton-SLU game. Princeton was up by two goals with 8 minutes to go, and it looked like the had the game in hand overall. Then SLU put in a really solid effort and won the game in a shootout. Princeton isn't great, but I watched their games against UNH and while they lost those, they put in solid efforts. They are quite capable of playing the spoiler, as is SLU.

For the last first-round ECAC bye, it really comes down to three teams:

Clarkson   30 pts
Dartmouth   29 pts
Cornell    24 pts

Remaining schedule:

Clarkson: Dar, Har, Cor, Col, Q, Pri
Dartmouth: Clk, SLU, RPI, Un, Br, Y
Cornell: Br, Y, Clk, SLU, Un, RPI

Clarkson has the toughest schedule.

Let's suppose wins shake out thusly:

Clarkson beats Dar, Har, Pri
Dartmouth beats SLU, RPI, Br, Y
Cornell beats Br, Y, Clk, SLU, RPI

That puts the points at:

Clarkson   39 pts
Dartmouth   41 pts
Cornell      39 pts

The above assumes us sweeping Clarkson, so we win the tiebreaker and end up fifth.

While we don't have the consistency to sweep our last six, if we win five, including Clarkson, and get lucky with Dartmouth dropping a should-win game, we could back into fourth.

Quite frankly, if Clarkson drops the Princeton game, and Dartmouth drops to SLU, we'd get there without the tiebreaker:

Clarkson    36 pts
Dartmouth   38 pts
Cornell      39 pts

Things that make this plausible:

1. Clarkson beat Dartmouth in December, and it was in Hanover, so the second game is a homer for the Knights.
2. The Clarkson-Princeton game is in Hobey Baker. That's a long bus ride, especially when you have to get there via Connecticut.
3. SLU won in Hanover earlier this season.

And now that I look at Union's remaining schedule (Q, Pri, Har, Dar, Cor, Col), it's not inconceivable that they go into a tailspin. I leave the mathematical implications of such as an exercise for the reader.

I'm not saying any of this is likely, but I am saying I'll keep watching, just in case I'm pleasantly surprised. Pleasant surprises are the best part about being a sports fan.

[Trotsky]

Na ga da.

We can't put together a solid weekend.

This year will be about trying to have a dream PS run.  We will be great again someday, perhaps even soon, but this year is a year to hide in the weeds and sink our fangs into some poor sucker who believes our record.  Which... well... they kinda should.

[chimpfood]

Yeah honestly this year is not much in the grand scheme of things but we are in a very scary spot right now with a coaching change, the chl change, and other rule changes looming. This is the type of situations that programs fall apart in and never get back to prominence. I want the best for this year but if we can stay relevant in the future that's even more important.

[BearLover]

Yeah honestly this year is not much in the grand scheme of things but we are in a very scary spot right now with a coaching change, the chl change, and other rule changes looming. This is the type of situations that programs fall apart in and never get back to prominence. I want the best for this year but if we can stay relevant in the future that's even more important.

Just looking at who Clarkson and Quinnipiac have been recruiting from the CHL, seems they are going to improve from the change more than we are. I don't know if it's these schools' lack of academic standards or what, but we haven't gotten any of the high scoring players aging out of the CHL, whereas Clarkson and Quinnipiac each already have at least four coming next year. Also, next year's goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we'll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future. This year has stunk so badly that's it's really soured me on our trajectory.

[billhoward]

[blah blah blah] next year's goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we'll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

[Jim Hyla]

[blah blah blah] next year's goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we'll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Especially since he's not even the head coach yet!

Interesting that on the Recruits thread people are talking about what a good recruiter he is.

Which Adam relates has always been true.

You don't need to tell that to any who remember when he was here before.

[Dafatone]

[blah blah blah] next year's goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we'll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Especially since he's not even the head coach yet!

Interesting that on the Recruits thread people are talking about what a good recruiter he is.

Which Adam relates has always been true.

You don't need to tell that to any who remember when he was here before.

Wasn't he the Nanaimo Clippers pipeline?

[BearLover]

[blah blah blah] next year's goalie situation looks extremely iffy, and the jury is very much still out on Casey. So we'll see what happens, but decent chance of more mediocrity in our future [repeat chorus]

Does the Lover family tree trace back to Chicken Little? Geez, man, give the new guy a chance.

Isn't that kind of what "the jury is still out" means?

[Trotsky]

We won't have a large enough sample size to evaluate Casey until 2030 earliest.  I know it's too much to expect people not to react to the last game as Perpetual Truth, but still...

And not that we'll ever actually have a reasonable opinion.  This is like patients in a waiting room arguing about the latest New England Journal of Medicine studies.  Yes, because your background as a Java developer makes you an expert on cancer immunology.

[Trotsky]

After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

[Tcl123]

After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn't dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

[Trotsky]

Walsh in conference play:

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Goals    10 (4th)    Bancroft 8 (7th)
G/GP    .56 (5th)    Psenicka .50 (7th)
Pts      16 (12th)
P/GP    .89 (15th)   Psenicka 1.08 (4th)
Shots    49 (8th)    Bancroft 55 (4th)
Sh/GP  2.72 (11th)   Bancroft 3.06 (6th)
FO      380 (2nd)    Castagna 251 (15th)
[b]FO%    .597 (2nd)    Castagna .606 (1st)[/b]

[Trotsky]

After 18 games:

40 Qpc
36 Clk
34 Cgt
34 Uni
30 Cor
30 Drt
25 Hvd
24 Brn
19 RPI
18 SLU
17 Prn
17 Yal

Shouldn't dart be above us? They win tiebreaker I thought?

ABC, not tiebreaker.