Alumni in the pros 24-25

Started by David Harding, October 09, 2024, 06:43:12 PM

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Beeeej

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Quote from: sah67Shane made 30 saves on 33 shots in his pro debut for Norfolk, an OT loss to Reading. He was also still rocking his Cornell pads and helmet: https://www.instagram.com/p/DH9iF62OoII
Sheesh I hope he's able to finish his degree

You may remember Shane Hynes '06.  He left early to turn pro but finished up his degree just a few years later.

Kent Manderville '93, BS 2012
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Ryan O'Byrne came back and got his degree from the Hotel school in 2016 at age 32.

For some reason I always thought Joe Nieuwendyk '88 had also finished his degree - he certainly spent enough time at Cornell, having bought a house on Cayuga Lake right after he left and turned pro - but I can't find any evidence of it.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: arugulaBancroft to the Bs.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/04/boston-bruins-sign-dalton-bancroft-to-entry-level-contract.html

In this article it says that Bancroft helped "Cornell to its most successful three year run in program history".

There weren't any further details so can anyone think of an angle to which these past three years could be considered the best three year stretch in program history?

So I just posted this comment on that article:

"This quote "helping Cornell to its most successful three-year run in program history." shows a lack of investigating Cornell history.

Check out the 1967-70 4 years. Each year they were the ECAC Champions, also in the NCAA Championship 4 each year and won the Championship in '67 & '70. The '70 team was the only NCAA undefeated season ever.

You could pick any 3 of the 4 seasons and they'd be better than the last 3. The 4 seasons were certainly the best ever.

Investigate further before writing."
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

arugula

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Quote from: arugulaBancroft to the Bs.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/04/boston-bruins-sign-dalton-bancroft-to-entry-level-contract.html

In this article it says that Bancroft helped "Cornell to its most successful three year run in program history".

There weren't any further details so can anyone think of an angle to which these past three years could be considered the best three year stretch in program history?

Three consecutive quarterfinals in the current circumstances versus 67-69 or 68-70 which were less competitive but not non-competitive. Interesting.

arugula

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Quote from: scoop85Those are some hideous uniforms.

Suda can offset that.  He signed with the Ghost Pirates
Awful team. Banger unis.

Savannah Ghost Pirates.  Original six?

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: arugulaBancroft to the Bs.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/04/boston-bruins-sign-dalton-bancroft-to-entry-level-contract.html

In this article it says that Bancroft helped "Cornell to its most successful three year run in program history".

There weren't any further details so can anyone think of an angle to which these past three years could be considered the best three year stretch in program history?

Three consecutive quarterfinals in the current circumstances versus 67-69 or 68-70 which were less competitive but not non-competitive. Interesting.

But you don't state that we won the national championship x2 as well as 70 being undefeated.

Sure those guys wouldn't match up with today's, but I can attest that the Cornell fans were more excited then. Talk to anyone who was walking into the old Boston Garden.

Finally, and probably most importantly, these years are what started the whole idea of Lynah Faithful.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

arugula

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: arugulaBancroft to the Bs.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/04/boston-bruins-sign-dalton-bancroft-to-entry-level-contract.html



In this article it says that Bancroft helped "Cornell to its most successful three year run in program history".

There weren't any further details so can anyone think of an angle to which these past three years could be considered the best three year stretch in program history?

Three consecutive quarterfinals in the current circumstances versus 67-69 or 68-70 which were less competitive but not non-competitive. Interesting.

But you don't state that we won the national championship x2 as well as 70 being undefeated.

Sure those guys wouldn't match up with today's, but I can attest that the Cornell fans were more excited then. Talk to anyone who was walking into the old Boston Garden.

Finally, and probably most importantly, these years are what started the whole idea of Lynah Faithful.


I completely agree. Was just musing.  The last three years have been great but not comparable to those.  But the flip side is that man there were some shockingly bad teams in the league then. Some of those scores were disgraceful.

George64

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Quote from: sah67Shane made 30 saves on 33 shots in his pro debut for Norfolk, an OT loss to Reading. He was also still rocking his Cornell pads and helmet: https://www.instagram.com/p/DH9iF62OoII
Sheesh I hope he's able to finish his degree

Players with pro aspirations plan their senior year schedule hoping to leave early.  I bet Shane is enrolled in no more than 13 credits this semester and that he took a couple of 1 or 2 credit courses that met in the first 7 weeks of the term.  Maybe some independent study and, for classes that run until the end of the term, no final exams if possible.  As long as he has done most of the work in a course, he can ask for an INC and make arrangements to finish the work at a later date.


AHL players salaries vary widely based on the type of contract (AHL-only or two-way NHL contracts). Here's a recent breakdown -

AHL-only contract players typically earn between $50,000 and $90,000 per season.  Players on NHL two-way contracts earn more, often between $70,000 and $150,000, depending on their NHL salary and terms.

Salaries range from around $52,500 (AHL minimum salary as of the 2024–25 season).  Some players earn $300,000+ in the AHL if they're on generous two-way contracts with high AHL guarantees, though this is rare.  Entry-level players on two-way NHL deals might earn $70,000–$80,000.  Median AHL salary is estimated at around $75,000–$85,000.

Recent graduates (Class of 2024) from the Dyson School of Applied Economics and Management (seemingly, the modal school for hockey players) have reported an average base salary of $96,394, with an average combined bonus of $11,896.  The school reported that 95 percent of graduates accepted offers within four months of graduation.

So, try the AHL for a few years while you're young and care-free.  If you make it to the NHL, you're set, if not, there's investment banking.
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David Harding

Jane McNally's report on Bancroft (and others) in The Sun

JasonN95

Quote from: David HardingJane McNally's report on Bancroft (and others) in The Sun

Good article. It's a bummer to lose Bancroft but overall I think this is positive for the program. Cornell won't be a factory team like BC, BU, UMich etc. but I think it has been able to compete with those teams in part because players on the cusp have developed here and raised their level of play sufficient to make it at the pro level including the NHL. A story like Bancroft's where he was undrafted but by his junior year had apparently five NHL clubs interested in him can be a selling point to recruits, as can the B's being satisfied with Walsh's development here and content to have him remain for his junior year. (At least that's how I choose to look at it. :-) ) If the team was losing players through the portal to other colleges, that would leave me with a sense of dread; guys making the leap to the pros does not.

dag14

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: George64
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: ER
Quote from: sah67Shane made 30 saves on 33 shots in his pro debut for Norfolk, an OT loss to Reading. He was also still rocking his Cornell pads and helmet: https://www.instagram.com/p/DH9iF62OoII
Sheesh I hope he's able to finish his degree

You may remember Shane Hynes '06.  He left early to turn pro but finished up his degree just a few years later.

Kent Manderville '93, BS 2012
.

Ryan O'Byrne came back and got his degree from the Hotel school in 2016 at age 32.

For some reason I always thought Joe Nieuwendyk '88 had also finished his degree - he certainly spent enough time at Cornell, having bought a house on Cayuga Lake right after he left and turned pro - but I can't find any evidence of it.

Joe N. has not finished his degree, at least not as of 2021.

David Harding

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Quote from: BeeeejFor some reason I always thought Joe Nieuwendyk '88 had also finished his degree - he certainly spent enough time at Cornell, having bought a house on Cayuga Lake right after he left and turned pro - but I can't find any evidence of it.

Joe N. has not finished his degree, at least not as of 2021.

At the moment the Cornell Alumni Directory shows his preferred class year of '88, but not a degree.

Swampy

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: arugula
Quote from: VIEWfromK
Quote from: arugulaBancroft to the Bs.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/04/boston-bruins-sign-dalton-bancroft-to-entry-level-contract.html

In this article it says that Bancroft helped "Cornell to its most successful three year run in program history".

There weren't any further details so can anyone think of an angle to which these past three years could be considered the best three year stretch in program history?

Three consecutive quarterfinals in the current circumstances versus 67-69 or 68-70 which were less competitive but not non-competitive. Interesting.

But you don't state that we won the national championship x2 as well as 70 being undefeated.

Sure those guys wouldn't match up with today's, but I can attest that the Cornell fans were more excited then. Talk to anyone who was walking into the old Boston Garden.

Finally, and probably most importantly, these years are what started the whole idea of Lynah Faithful.

+10

stereax

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: David HardingJane McNally's report on Bancroft (and others) in The Sun

Good article. It's a bummer to lose Bancroft but overall I think this is positive for the program. Cornell won't be a factory team like BC, BU, UMich etc. but I think it has been able to compete with those teams in part because players on the cusp have developed here and raised their level of play sufficient to make it at the pro level including the NHL. A story like Bancroft's where he was undrafted but by his junior year had apparently five NHL clubs interested in him can be a selling point to recruits, as can the B's being satisfied with Walsh's development here and content to have him remain for his junior year. (At least that's how I choose to look at it. :-) ) If the team was losing players through the portal to other colleges, that would leave me with a sense of dread; guys making the leap to the pros does not.
Great points, 100% agreed on all of them.
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