Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

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ugarte

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Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.
Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.
Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.
Still looked like a clear trip to me. Also I think there was a more blatant trip that went uncalled on an earlier UMass goal, and also the refs refused to delay play when Minn's goalie's equipment was malfunctioning.

scoop85

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.
Didn't look as bad in the replay as it did in real time. looked more like a wipeout than a trip.

Agreed, on replay didn't look like much of a trip.

sah67

Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

I'm sure Schafer is delighted that Carusone got assigned to that game instead of ours! ::banana::

imafrshmn

Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.
B.S. Cornell '09 / M.S. Michigan '17

BearLover

Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.
I don't know, it still looked like a trip to me. The second UMass goal was off a far more egregious missed call, in any case.

marty

Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: BearLoverMinnesota got completely and utterly hosed by the refs in their game with UMass just now. If Cornell is going to lose, I just hope it isn't like that.

They certainly did... and Gopher fans were justified in throwing trash on the ice at the end there. OT goal reviews should be able to adjudicate infractions in the buildup play... not sure what the official explanation was there.

Taking another look at this sequence, i believe i was fooled. The contact was marginal and the Minny player really tried to sell it (a big no-no), the partisan crowd reacted strongly, and Minny was a bit lazy getting back in position. Refs got it right and we got a lesson in sports psychology. Still not a great way to end a tourney game.

In the days before camera reviewed goals Cornell got scored on in the 2nd of the 1998 3 game ECAC tourney set at RPI.  The puck was apparently in and out of the net so fast that the ref (in the days of one ref, I believe) didn't see it.  Cornell got caught complaining and RPI skated down the ice to score and force a game 3 - which Cornell thankfully won.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

Brown is getting absolutely ravaged by the portal and early departures. I think 3/4 of their top scorers and their starting goalie who put up a .917 sv% on a weak team are all leaving early via pro contract or portal. For a team that made strides this year but relied heavily on its goalie and top line, this is a disaster for them.

For our purposes though, the goalie, Lawton Zacher, could be a very realistic portal target. He has only played two years of college so he would be eligible to transfer here for his final two years. He is from Buffalo, NY. He's coming from another Ivy. And we need a goalie. Seems like we should have a real shot at him, should the coaching staff choose to pursue it. This would require carrying four goalies on the roster next year, something we never do but other programs do. Seems like it's mostly a question of how badly do we want to win next season versus upsetting team chemistry by taking in a goalie who would presumably play ahead of the three goalies who would already be here.

BearLover

Quote from: BearLoverBrown is getting absolutely ravaged by the portal and early departures. I think 3/4 of their top scorers and their starting goalie who put up a .917 sv% on a weak team are all leaving early via pro contract or portal. For a team that made strides this year but relied heavily on its goalie and top line, this is a disaster for them.

For our purposes though, the goalie, Lawton Zacher, could be a very realistic portal target. He has only played two years of college so he would be eligible to transfer here for his final two years. He is from Buffalo, NY. He's coming from another Ivy. And we need a goalie. Seems like we should have a real shot at him, should the coaching staff choose to pursue it. This would require carrying four goalies on the roster next year, something we never do but other programs do. Seems like it's mostly a question of how badly do we want to win next season versus upsetting team chemistry by taking in a goalie who would presumably play ahead of the three goalies who would already be here.
Hmm, I noticed that Lawton's brother, Walter Zacher, a forward from RMU who put up good numbers, also just entered the portal. I wonder if they are a package deal. In any case, many kids who enter the portal already know where they're going, so I doubt we get Lawton unless he was previously on our radar. But as far as portal entrants go, he does seem to be just about the most perfect match possible.

Cornell95

without even getting in to whether the program should become an active portal shopper as a regular strategy

is there really consensus that Keopple wouldnt be a reasonable backstop to the defense next year
not sure there has been sufficient starts to say he doesnt have what it takes
sure he didnt platoon this year with Shane who was a returning Richter award finalist and senior, that doesnt mean he cant step up next year

BearLover

Quote from: Cornell95without even getting in to whether the program should become an active portal shopper as a regular strategy

is there really consensus that Keopple wouldnt be a reasonable backstop to the defense next year
not sure there has been sufficient starts to say he doesnt have what it takes
sure he didnt platoon this year with Shane who was a returning Richter award finalist and senior, that doesnt mean he cant step up next year
Nobody knows the answer to this, other than maybe those watching practice every day. Keopple had good junior numbers, better than Shane's in fact. But we can only infer from his tiny NCAA sample size and the fact the coaches refused to bench Shane even when he was struggling.

BearLover

ECAC schools outside of Cornell/Harvard/Quinnipiac  are really getting crushed by the transfer portal/pro signings. It's starting to feel similar to the mid-major—>power 4 trajectory in basketball/football. Have a good year at Brown or Clarkson or RPI and then bolt for Hockey East.

Trotsky

With Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in.  You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal.  It's push not pull.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyWith Roest coming in we have three goalies and I would be surprised (not shocked) if we brought another in.  You have to treat guys who have put in the work here well or word will get around.

My instinct is that we won't pull from the portal just because they are available, but guys who fit the profile and really want to come here we will now be allowed to consider because they are in the portal.  It's push not pull.
I agree that it is unlikely for the reasons you stated and mentioned this in my above post too. But we all know what BU and Quinnipiac would do, they'd bring in the fourth goalie. I want to be more like BU and Quinnipiac if it means we will win more. Not full-on BU/Quinnipiac bullshit, but more in that direction. We've done all we can under our current limitations, we need unshackle ourselves from these restrictions if at all possible and do what we can to get over the hump.  I am tired of losing in the regional final, I am tired of feeling haunted by the same stupid game every offseason, and I know the coaches and players feel this ten-fold. We need to try to win.

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