Cornell lacrosse 2025

Started by billhoward, August 02, 2024, 10:39:13 AM

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rss77

Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May.  Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes.  Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc.  Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play.  Agreed on the hit to Long.  Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.

billhoward

Quote from: rss77Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May.  Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes.  Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc.  Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play.  Agreed on the hit to Long.  Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.
One still can make mental comparisons among the other great Cornell attackman, and their attributes. Imagine if Jeff Teat '21 was the size of CJ Kirst, or Mike French '76. (I know to a lot of people that going back fifty years is like someone in the French era hearing about a great lacrosse player of the 1920s) Or Eamon  McEneaney '77 who was 5-10 150 but with the strength to weight ratio of a trapped squirrel and who played football (150s the moved up to regular). The McEneaney-to-French Connection (there was a 1971 movie French Connection) were incredible the two years they were together, 1975 and 1976, titles in '76 and '77 (made it to semifinals 1975).

And their greatness depends on how good the teammates were that got the faceoffs, groundballs and saves.

I still wish Cornell worked a scheme to get Teat free more.

Swampy

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: rss77Good to see the Red ranked #1 but lets see if we can stay on top when it really matters in May.  Watching Kirst is like watching Michael Jordan-such incredible head scratching shots he makes.  Not going to get caught up in comparing him to likes of French, Pannell, Teat, etc.  Appreciate the greatness of watching CJ play.  Agreed on the hit to Long.  Its a play that one sees too often in lacrosse-leveling the guy right after the shot.
One still can make mental comparisons among the other great Cornell attackman, and their attributes. Imagine if Jeff Teat '21 was the size of CJ Kirst, or Mike French '76. (I know to a lot of people that going back fifty years is like someone in the French era hearing about a great lacrosse player of the 1920s) Or Eamon  McEneaney '77 who was 5-10 150 but with the strength to weight ratio of a trapped squirrel and who played football (150s the moved up to regular). The McEneaney-to-French Connection (there was a 1971 movie French Connection) were incredible the two years they were together, 1975 and 1976, titles in '76 and '77 (made it to semifinals 1975).

And their greatness depends on how good the teammates were that got the faceoffs, groundballs and saves.

I still wish Cornell worked a scheme to get Teat free more.

+1

Two other comments:
  • Much of how Cornell does the rest of this season will depend on Long's status and his recovery.
  • You're right about foul that knocked Long out of the game. I was angry at the refs for not making the penalty non-releasable and for not kicking the Yalie who hit him out of the game. The refs have to call the came to protect the players from being hurt, and they clearly failed in this case.

jjanow99

Watching a video of Kirst goals vs Yale, I see that Yale left Goldstein open behind the cage for much of the game. Was this a tactic (which obviously misfired), or just bad defense? He's such a great passer that it seems that they would want to keep someone on him. Or, maybe they were just too worried about Kirst.

mike1960

Quote from: jjanow99Watching a video of Kirst goals vs Yale, I see that Yale left Goldstein open behind the cage for much of the game. Was this a tactic (which obviously misfired), or just bad defense? He's such a great passer that it seems that they would want to keep someone on him. Or, maybe they were just too worried about Kirst.

A lot of defenses leave the X isolated until he receives a pass or is in position to receive a pass. He's usually marked by an LSD in front or around the crease, who adds support while the ball is in front of the goal.

mike1960

Here's a link to an Instagram of all Jesus Kirst's scores. I really like the first one. Kirst sets an off ball screen to Dalton, gets the switch, and then Firth seals off the switching D. Kirst spins and gets side open for the slam.

We need to run that at least once a quarter. It's a beauty.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHo1TN7POv1/

Al DeFlorio

Kirst has 202 career goals.  The Division I record is 224, by Virginia's Payton Cormier.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

Any how many of the possible 12 games left does he get to play

Swampy

Quote from: Al DeFlorioKirst has 202 career goals.  The Division I record is 224, by Virginia's Payton Cormier.

I believe Cormier set this record last year and this year is no longer playing college ball.

Al DeFlorio

Al DeFlorio '65

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Al DeFlorioNice analysis of Kirst's dodges:  https://youtu.be/FTS4Qg5orlE?si=mhuVXQAwR2uZmSS5

Very cool.  Thanks, Al.

Chousnake

Why does ESPN+ have the game starting at 12:30? ???????

scoop85

Quote from: ChousnakeWhy does ESPN+ have the game starting at 12:30? ???????

Strange indeed

Trotsky

Nope, game has started.


13:30 COR Firth, Willem (FIRST GOAL); Assist by Dalton, Andrew; Goal number 14 for season.

Trotsky

Game thread now has updates.