Cornell lacrosse 2025

[mike1960]

Great game, marylands goalie (from Corning) saves the game after letting in a bit of a weak goal.

Can't believe the refs didn't call a moving screen on Rudy's 10th goal. Wow. It was such an obvious call.

Moving screen or moving pick? I thought moving screens are legal.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they were the same thing. The screener moved to his right three or four steps to prevent the defensive player from staying with the ball carrier coming over the top. It didn't make any difference in the outcome, but I thought, wow, how can you not call that.

By "screen" I understand an offensive player being in position to make it difficult for the defending GK to see the ball and/or the offensive player handling it. Screening does not necessarily impede the motion of anyone on the defending team. Of course, every player has the right to be in their space, so a screening player may stand still and impede the motion of a defending player.

A moving pick, on the other hand, moves to impede a defending player.

I see what you're saying - screening the goalie. I think the term can be used in both contexts. I don't recall the rulebook using the term "pick," but we know that that means.

[Swampy]

Great game, marylands goalie (from Corning) saves the game after letting in a bit of a weak goal.

Can't believe the refs didn't call a moving screen on Rudy's 10th goal. Wow. It was such an obvious call.

Moving screen or moving pick? I thought moving screens are legal.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they were the same thing. The screener moved to his right three or four steps to prevent the defensive player from staying with the ball carrier coming over the top. It didn't make any difference in the outcome, but I thought, wow, how can you not call that.

By "screen" I understand an offensive player being in position to make it difficult for the defending GK to see the ball and/or the offensive player handling it. Screening does not necessarily impede the motion of anyone on the defending team. Of course, every player has the right to be in their space, so a screening player may stand still and impede the motion of a defending player.

A moving pick, on the other hand, moves to impede a defending player.

I see what you're saying - screening the goalie. I think the term can be used in both contexts. I don't recall the rulebook using the term "pick," but we know that that means.

The one thing I would add is that a pick does not have to be used for separating a defensive player from the ball carrier. For example, a play can start with an attackman having the ball behind the other team's goal and a wing middie setting a pick for the defender guarding the center middie; the center middie runs parallel to GLE and turns toward the goal at the pick; once the center middie is free of the defender, thanks to the pick, the attackman passes the ball to the center middie for a quick-stick shot. In general, such picks can be used to free a teammate from their defender so that the teammate can shoot, receive a pass, or otherwise do something a defender could prevent.

[mike1960]

Great game, marylands goalie (from Corning) saves the game after letting in a bit of a weak goal.

Can't believe the refs didn't call a moving screen on Rudy's 10th goal. Wow. It was such an obvious call.

Moving screen or moving pick? I thought moving screens are legal.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they were the same thing. The screener moved to his right three or four steps to prevent the defensive player from staying with the ball carrier coming over the top. It didn't make any difference in the outcome, but I thought, wow, how can you not call that.

By "screen" I understand an offensive player being in position to make it difficult for the defending GK to see the ball and/or the offensive player handling it. Screening does not necessarily impede the motion of anyone on the defending team. Of course, every player has the right to be in their space, so a screening player may stand still and impede the motion of a defending player.

A moving pick, on the other hand, moves to impede a defending player.

I see what you're saying - screening the goalie. I think the term can be used in both contexts. I don't recall the rulebook using the term "pick," but we know that that means.

The one thing I would add is that a pick does not have to be used for separating a defensive player from the ball carrier. For example, a play can start with an attackman having the ball behind the other team's goal and a wing middie setting a pick for the defender guarding the center middie; the center middie runs parallel to GLE and turns toward the goal at the pick; once the center middie is free of the defender, thanks to the pick, the attackman passes the ball to the center middie for a quick-stick shot. In general, such picks can be used to free a teammate from their defender so that the teammate can shoot, receive a pass, or otherwise do something a defender could prevent.

Yes. The same rules apply. The screener has to establish position (can't be moving). If not, it's called interference (not an illegal pick/screen).

[chimpfood]

They call moving picks way more strict in lacrosse than in basketball or other sports. I definitely could've seen one being called on that last goal but yeah good thing it didn't end up mattering

[mike1960]

They call moving picks way more strict in lacrosse than in basketball or other sports. I definitely could've seen one being called on that last goal but yeah good thing it didn't end up mattering

One thing the refs don't call is unnecessary roughness when the defensive player plows through the pick. I know it's a perfect occasion for a flop, but I've seen a few cases where it definitely wasn't a flop, and it wasn't called.

[mike1960]

Chris Davis is on Cornell lacrosse's Instagram poster for the game today. Will he play?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGswitlRmNa/

[Al DeFlorio]

1-6 down start; turnovers:  poor clears; poor shot selection; strong Richmond tender

[CU77]

Meanwhile Princeton completes its weekend sweep of Duke and UNC.

[upprdeck]

yup. passing has been awful.  You would normally have seen 2-3 of those shots go in. Ground ball energy lacking,  And too many long range shots not saved

[mike1960]

1-6 down start; turnovers:  poor clears; poor shot selection; strong Richmond tender

Couldn't have gone much worse. Richmond is doing a really good job against our clears. We need to get open and move the ball.

We still let guys have free hands shooting between 10 and 15 yards. Wyatt is having a tough time right now.

We haven't seen the ball much on O. On that last possession, the long pole D just poked the stick and took the ball.

[mike1960]

Nice Cornell run to make it 4-6, but then Box lost his man in front of the goal and Richmond gets another.

4-7

Richmond had another man open for a pass in the middle and we were lucky he didn't drain it. We need to button that up.

[Al DeFlorio]

Drained one later 6-8; gotta close it to even

[CU77]

7-8 at the half

[mike1960]

8-7 Spiders at the half.

Cornell played a lot better than quarter. More ground balls, face off wins, and clears.

I'm impressed with the Spiders defense. They are not afraid to play tough on the ball, they slide fast and hard, and they are active off the ball. Cornell can score because we're so good on offense, but it takes very good play.

[Al DeFlorio]

Not getting good shots